[address-policy-wg] 2016-03 Discussion Period extended until 15 July 2016 (Locking Down the Final /8 Policy)
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Gert Doering
gert at space.net
Mon Jun 20 10:04:33 CEST 2016
Hi, On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 08:43:45PM +0200, Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN wrote: > Another "legitimate" case that will no longer be possible was an > argument what was given to me during the discussion of 2015-05: > A company becomes LIR because they need "some provider independent" > space (which today is limited to ALLOCATED PA) which usually equals to > "less than a /24 of actual need, but still a /24 for routing purposes". > They don't really need more than a /24 now and on short/medium term, and > they estimate that they will not need more than a second /24 (size chose > for routing purposes only) even in the longer term. Someone argued that > it would be legitimate and desirable for that LIR to put the remaining > /23 (considered not ever be a need) on the market. Did this became > non-legitimate over-night ? I would consider this also as a fringe case - legitimate according to the letter of the policy, but not according to the spirit. These /22s are not for trading. But I'm close to giving up on this and calling a ban on further changes to the IPv4 policy - the "new LIR" folks here are accting in a fairly irresponsible way regarding *future* participants, while at the same time complaining that they are treated unfairly by the old LIRs - totally ignoring the fact that *without the foresight of these old LIRs* you wouldn't have any space at all today. This is not the way to do bottom-up policy making - "I want my cookie and I want it now, and I do not care for the greater good". Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/attachments/20160620/401b10f7/attachment.sig>
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