[address-policy-wg] @EXT: Inputs/observations from EUROPOLon proposal 2023-04

hi,

2023-04 Add AGGREGATED-BY-LIR status for IPv4 PA assignments (which you
may have mis-understood) aside, i am intellectually curious, but ianal,
and i try not to play one on the net.

i think i understand your concerns to a fair extent.  the more and more
accurate data leo can access without a court order makes life easier for
leo.  and, as a security guy who occasionally has to call leo, i have
some sympathy for leo here.  though in the extreme, we have a police
state.  but take anything to the extreme and it is silly.  my point is
that there is a spectrum.

but as a privacy guy, i am interested in the tension between that and
the privacy and data protection initiatives on which the eu seems to be
in the lead (congrats).  even operationally, we have a tension between
privacy and data such as location (see geoloc: discussion), identity
(whois), this proposal, etc.

as i said, ianal, but i think the slow and frustrating court order is
meant to dump that tradeoff on a judge.  here, in our nerdy way, we're
trying to automate it, but have the same tensions.

so i wonder if you could shed some light on where you see the tradeoff
here.

randy, trying to move from positions to a conversation