[anti-abuse-wg] Policy proposal: closing allocation/assignment window, was Policy disallowing spam from RIPE blocks
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Gert Doering
gert at space.net
Thu Mar 10 14:17:19 CET 2011
Hi, On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 02:05:31PM +0100, Shane Kerr wrote: > > 1. Closing the allocation window / giving LIRs less leeway in > > approvals [so there should be no difference in submitting a request > > through a LIR, or through the RIR] > > Do you mean the "assignment window"? > > As I understand it, when you get an allocation from the RIPE NCC you > can't actually use it for anything until you get approval to assign that > space. After a certain amount of time, you have proven yourself > more-or-less trustworthy, then you get an assignment window, and can > make smallish assignments yourself without prior approval. These > assignments are reviewed - both by automated tools and by humans - if > and when you ask for another allocation. Mostly correct, yes. You still start with an AW=0, and that goes up after 6 month to /22 if you have done some NCC-approved assignments in that time. (It was somewhat more strict in previous times, where you'd only get to about the size you have assigned - while today, you always get /22 or bigger) [..] > If you mean the process by which provider-independent (PI) space is > assigned, then as I understand it this REQUIRES an LIR to make the > request on your behalf. I assume that the RIPE NCC reviews each request, > the same as they would any address request. > > To be honest, I don't really understand what the LIR role in this whole > process is, other than maybe companies prefer to work with a local > company that speaks their language, is in their time zone, and > understands their business environment. This is the whole point. There might be a business relation with a local LIR already, and that's way easier for "smallish companies" than to do international contracts with Amstedam. You *can* get the PI space from the RIPE NCC directly (nowadays) by becoming a so-called "direct access user" - but this is more expensive, and more paperwork. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- did you enable IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
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