[anti-abuse-wg] Mandate from the RIPE community

Hi,

The RIPE NCC has no mandate from the community to perform regular checks 
on the contact data provided by a member. This has been much discussed 
in recent times. Right now there is no proposal formally asking the NCC 
to do this, nor is the Abuse Contact Management Task Force looking at 
this, however I suspect it will not be long before the matter is raised 
here or in another RIPE WG formally again.

As to whether the RIPE community is organised, there is substantial 
information on this matter on this matter here:

http://www.ripe.net/ripe

The community acts through the working group mailing lists and twice a 
year it comes together at a full RIPE meeting. There are also regional 
meetings, but ultimately policy is discussed and decided on the mailing 
list. If you have any specific questions you can contact the Co-Chairs 
of this working group at aa-wg-chairs at ripe.net

Brian,
Co-Chair, Anti-Abuse WG

"U.Mutlu" wrote the following on 13/01/2012 17:30:
> Hi everbody,
>
> what do you say to the answer below I got from RIPE?
>
> Doesn't RIPE already have a mandate for keeping the
> whois database uptodate with all the vital public data
> like contact email address for abuse reporting etc?
>
> Normally its just a simple database scan to find the records
> with such missing vital data, ie. one can even automate this job
> to periodically request from the owners the missing data.
>
> BTW, is the RIPE community somehow organized? Any speaker/contact person
> etc.?
>
> U.Mutlu
> mutluit.com
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: NCC#2012010449 Missing contact data for Abuse Reporting for
> IP 84.240.196.128 and 84.240.197.0
> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:38:31 +0100
> From: RIPE NCC <ncc at ripe.net>
> Reply-To: RIPE NCC <ncc at ripe.net>
> To: U.Mutlu <security at mutluit.com>
>
> Dear Mr. Mutlu,
>
> Thank you for your email.
> Indeed there is no email contact but there are some phone contact
> details that you can find on our DB query page.
>
> There may be options we could pursue to check the validity of the contact
> data in the objects in the RIPE Database. Where we have a direct
> relationship with the owners of these objects we could request that they
> update this information. But we do not have a mandate from the RIPE
> community to allocate any resources to this activity. If you feel this
> should have a higher priority then you may raise the issue on the Database
> Working Group or Anti Abuse Working Group or Address Policy Working Group
> mailing lists. You can find information about the mailing lists here
>
> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/groups/wg
>
> These are open working groups and views are welcomed from anyone who
> wishes to discuss relevant issues.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Natasa Mojsilovic
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> On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:56:43 +0100, U.Mutlu wrote:
>> I want to point you to some missing data in the RIPE DB:
>>
>> Your webpage below says about RIPE queries: 'Please do not use the
>> email address in the “changed” line.'
>> (
>> https://www.ripe.net/data-tools/db/faq/faq-hacking-spamming/what-can-i-do-about-spam-hacking
>> )
>>
>> But the following IP's have no other email contact specified
>> except those marked as "changed" and "upd-to" (yes I used the "-B"
>> switch):
>> 84.240.196.128
>> 84.240.197.0
>>
>> And also the Abuse Finder page at
>> https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/abuse-finder.html
>> doesn't find any abuse contact for these IPs.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> U.Mutlu
>> SysAdm mutluit.com
>
>