[anti-abuse-wg] Notice: Fradulent RIPE ASNs
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Suresh Ramasubramanian
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Sat Jan 19 17:48:35 CET 2013
Call it yet another data point for RIPE NCC to use, proactiely.. Spamhaus listings and controversy - well, there have been earlier cases where they have escalated to cover an ISP (say), where several ranges in that ISP's IP space were infested. Several of those assigned PI / PA netblocks appear to be cybercrime controlled though. With 8800 customers, well - it simply means RIPE NCC needs to learn from, say, a bank manager, on what'd happen to him if he sanctioned a bank loan on the strength of the same weird and wonderful paperwork with which RIPE NCC ocasionally sanctions a /16 or larger. "We are not the X police" doesn't quite gel with the fiduciary responsibility they have as trustees of a globally shared, finitely available resource. On Saturday, January 19, 2013, peter h wrote: > On Saturday 19 January 2013 17.24, Sander Steffann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > This is a list of RIPE assigned pi / pa netblocks that are in spamhaus > .. quite a few in the past few days, large ones too. Mostly romania / > eastern europe, for one reason or the other.. > > > > > > http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings/ripe > > > > Being listed by Spamhaus is not a reason to revoke address space. There > is no such policy in the RIPE region, and I think it is very unlikely that > the whole RIPE community will agree to let one organisation veto anybody's > right to address space. There have been incidents in the past where > Spamhaus listings were very controversial. > > > > Now if anyone sees that there has been fraud, people lying to the RIPE > NCC, people lying about their need for address space, etc. then that is in > violation of the RIPE policies and the RIPE NCC Service Contract. In those > cases the RIPE NCC can act and has the mandate of the members to act. With > 8800+ members it is not possible to audit all of them all the time, so > helpful information about fraud are very helpful for the RIPE NCC to target > their audits. > > > To be listed as spammer may in itself not be a reason to revoke addresses. > But it should be enough to > start an investigation, for instance mail the address"owners" and ask for > a comment. If they > cannot be reached then revokation comes closer .... > > Cheers, > > Sander > > > > > > > > > > -- > Peter Håkanson > > There's never money to do it right, but always money to do it > again ... and again ... and again ... and again. > ( Det är billigare att göra rätt. Det är dyrt att laga fel. ) > > -- --srs (iPad) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20130119/5398609c/attachment.html>
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