[anti-abuse-wg] Notice: Fradulent RIPE ASNs
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Shane Kerr
shane at time-travellers.org
Tue Jan 22 10:45:48 CET 2013
Ronald, On Monday, 2013-01-21 03:44:57 -0800, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg at tristatelogic.com> wrote: > Public naming and shaming of any and all parties involved should be > a part of that, in my opinion, and furthermore I think that a pro- > vision which explicitly allows this should be written into all RIPE > contracts from now on.... as in "If we catch you doing this, then > no, you DON'T get to hide behind any confidentiality provisions > within this contract that might otherwise apply." I agree. I even don't think we should wait until the end of the process! :) There are reasons that trials are matters of the public record, and basically I think they all apply here. > >Perhaps something more like a couple of checkboxes on the complaint > >form which say: > > > >[ ] I wish this complaint to be public. > > [ ] I wish my name to be included in the public report. > > Color me flumoxed. I can't find "flummoxed" in my crayon box, but maybe I need to get one with more colors. ;) > I _thought_ that we were talking about the (unfortunate) > confidentiality now being routinely and contractually provided to > RIPE members... even, apparently, utterly fictitious and fradulent > ones... who make off with resources, counter to current allocation > policies, via fraud, deceit, or artifice. All of a sudden you seem > to be worried about _my_ confi- dentiality, or lack thereof, or > forfiture thereof. No, I'm not worried about your confidentiality, however I was trying to think of potential misuse of the system. For example, I might falsely report abuse by a competitor, in order to tarnish their name, and cost them time & money dealing with the report. Because of this, it is in people's interest to have the identity of the abuse reporter public to avoid this issue. HOWEVER, there is also a place for anonymous abuse reporting. People may notice something "funny", but not really be interested in spending a lot of their own effort resolving it. Consider it like an anonymous tip-line that some police departments set up. So when evaluating reports of an LIR's abuse, one could see anonymous reports but view with an additional level of skepticism. > You have a solution in search of a problem. Well, the main point of the proposal is to have a public archive of abuse reports to the RIPE NCC, not anonymity. The problem that I was attempting to solve is the utter lack of transparency in abuse handling. I readily admit it is probably not the best! Please suggest something else! Cheers, -- Shane
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