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Tue Oct 4 18:20:33 CEST 2016
On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 21:42:59 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote: > On 04/10/16, 9:25 PM, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of ox" > <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net on behalf of andre at ox.co.za> wrote: > > Doing what you are doing. And pointing out that the AUP's you are > > referring to are written by, at the least, non ethical people and > > at the most, dishonest people. > Ah, the legal departments of most every ISP and email provider then? > In other words, colleagues of most everybody that attends a RIPE > meeting, and official policy set by their employers? > Interesting set of perceptions there – but not a terms of reference > based on which I intend to carry on this discussion any further. > to refresh your memory, this is what was said: > Do yourself a favour. Go review the acceptable use policies of > various large ISPs and email providers. Then come back with a better > informed reply. > It is pointless to continue this discussion, without your being > better informed. not sure how to respond to that, as it is fairly personally directed, but I will try... Just because various large ISPs and email providers says something it does not mean that it has to be accepted by society. Or even that anything and/or everything they say in common is correct, accurate or fair in an open,ethical and just society. a singular and simple example would be Google.com When their servers behave abusively they bounce emails to their clients saying that the sender has an error. ethical? - no. fair? - no no evil? - no. decent? - no. nice? - no. do I have to believe and trust the largest email provider on the planet earth, Google? - no.
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