[anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election

Dear friends,

Every member of the community, who is on the receiving end of abuse,
feels that something should be done!

I reiterate what I have said before: this is just one example of how
todays' approach in handling abuse or designing anti-abuse policy is not
really working. I am not the only one who has realised that this
community seems not to agree anything. That is perfectly understandable.
When once there was just academia who drove the development of internet,
now the community has grown encompassing legitimate business but also
abusers who have become part of that community. We can always find
reasons (justified or not) on why not to do anything or change anything
but we have to understand that impact of not doing anything will
continue to grow.

Already number of countries argue rightly that the multi-stakeholder
approach is not working. And that is all too true. The reasons why they
want to change are likely not driven by the fact current approach is not
working but something more serious. We have to stop fuelling the
arguments that decentralised model is not delivering. If we continue as
we have, we will have changes forced upon us (thing we have turned down
so far) but its likely that more will come and things, we would not be
happy to see at all.

-- 
Tõnu Tammer
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On 17.04.2020 09:55, Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
> Hello List
>
> I've been, mostly passive, on this list for quite a while. I must say we
> really excel in terms of abusing each other. And I agree with Ronald, we
> seem to fail coming forward with even partial solutions to prevent
> abuse. I am disappointed by the tone on this list. One can, and should
> disagree on topics, but one should not loose the common goal, reduce
> abuse in our case. I fear we are doing just that.
>
> Maybe the striving for a perfect solution, that has no side effects is
> not the right approach. Criminals don't mind side effects, and maybe
> rather than avoiding them we should try to control and minimize them.
>
> While I'm not the right person to determine what topics are appropriate
> for the list, I don't see any harm in asking people to maybe consider
> viable candidates for board positions. We can discuss the tone. This
> group repeatedly pointed out the importance of a bottom up, democratic
> governance structure for RIPE. I'd argue, that a good selection of
> candidates for such a position is the basis for this.
>
> I would hope for the abuse WG to become a little more pragmatic and
> positive thinking when trying to come up with solutions to fight abuse.
> "Divide and conquer" is a concept criminals thrive on too.
>
> Having said that, I wish everyone good health and and a hopefully
> enjoyable weekend.
>
> Best
> Serge
>