[anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

Hi Jordi,

EU laws are for EU and not all countries care if they can do bussines with
EU, lots of assumption i guess.

Regards,

Arash


On Tue, 12 May 2020, 20:12 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg, <
anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net> wrote:

> I don't think EU laws are useless towards non-EU countries that break them.
>
> In the case of privacy, they will not be able to keep doing business with
> the EU.
>
> In a more understanding way, EU (or EU members) reach agreements with
> specific countries so the sanctions can be applied as well, including fines.
>
> For example, when speaking about GDPR, countries like Mauritius and
> Uruguay, have signed those agreements. I believe the reason is to allow
> mutual business, it makes a lot of sense: if you are offering applications
> that collect our citizen data, you must follow our rules, or we will find
> someone that want to follows them.
>
> We do this every other day, in any economic activity. I know that if you
> violate speed limit in one country the fine will be collected from your
> account in many other countries, it is just reciprocity.
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
>
>
>
> El 10/5/20 20:54, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Sabri Berisha" <
> anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de sabri at cluecentral.net>
> escribió:
>
>     ----- On May 7, 2020, at 2:26 AM, Nick Hilliard nick at foobar.org wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     (And to you Töma, Peace :))
>
>     > Töma Gavrichenkov wrote on 07/05/2020 10:03:
>     >> What does GDPR have to say about this?
>     >
>     > You mean the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations /
> PECR.
>     > Spamming is prohibited under article 13.
>     >
>     > National transcriptions of this legislation have implemented this as
> a
>     > civil offence in some EU countries and a criminal offence in others.
>
>     Yes, and as long as the sender is safe in a non-EU country, none of the
>     EU "laws" will apply to them nor will they care.
>
>     It's the same thing as saying bad things about Thailand's king while
>     shouting from a pedestal on St. Petersburg Square.
>
>     I don't know about you guys, but I have a very effective system for
>     dealing with this kind of crap.
>
>     It's called *plonk*.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Sabri
>
>
>
>
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