[anti-abuse-wg] Seeking Input on the Future of the Anti-Abuse Working Group

Hi chairs, all,

I think this is a great working group.  Periods of silence are physiological; 
for example, they may arise after a thorough discussion about a proposed point 
which is eventually found to be unfeasible.  The idea to force every abuse-c to 
actually receive email messages and act on them suits that example.

If there are security topics that the current charter doesn't cover, 
re-chartering is certainly a good idea.  The chairs are great, especially 
Brian, and I see no reason to select new ones.  Closing the working group would 
be a matter of regret and I hope it's not going to happen.


Best
Ale


On Thu 21/Mar/2024 10:09:00 +0100 Markus de Brün wrote:
> 
> Dear Anti-Abuse Working Group Members,
> 
> 
> As Co-Chairs, we have been carefully monitoring the discussions on the mailing 
> list and are concerned about the current state of stagnation and lack of progress.
> 
> After consideration and discussion among the Co-Chairs, we believe it is 
> necessary to initiate a dialogue regarding the future direction of our working 
> group. Some action is needed to revitalise our efforts.
> 
> 
> The Co-Chairs have discussed a number of options, both between ourselves and 
> with the RIPE Chair Team. However, due to the lack of general engagement, and 
> the circular conversations on the list, we see three viable options at this point::
> 
> 
>  1.
> 
>     Re-charteringthe working group, possibly transitioning it into a Security
>     Working Group to broaden our scope and address related concerns
>     comprehensively. (The current charter can be found here:
>     https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse/
>     <https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/anti-abuse/>)
> 
>  2.
> 
>     It is possible we are simply the wrong Co-Chairs at the wrong time, so we
>     can step-downand allow the working group to select new Co-Chairs.
> 
>  3.
> 
>     Closing the working groupif consensus cannot be reached on a viable path
>     forward.
> 
> 
> It may be that there are people in the Working Group who are eager to propose 
> new policies, or embark on a project to systematically examine the abuse 
> ecosystem, but over the last year or so, there has been no evidence this is the 
> case.
> 
> 
> However, we firmly believe that the best course of action is to engage all 
> members of the Anti-Abuse Working Group in an open and transparent discussion 
> about the challenges we face and the opportunities for positive change. Your 
> input and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of our community.
> 
> 
> Therefore, we are inviting you to participate actively in this crucial 
> conversation. We encourage you to share your thoughts, suggestions, and 
> concerns regarding the current state of the working group and your vision for 
> its future direction.
> 
> 
> Your input will help inform our next steps and guide the evolution of the 
> Anti-Abuse Working Group. We encourage you to share your feedback openly on the 
> mailing list so that all members can participate in the conversation. We hope 
> to discuss the status at RIPE88.
> 
> 
> Thank you for reading this far. We look forward to your active participation in 
> shaping the future of the Anti-Abuse Working Group.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Brian, Tobias, Markus