[db-wg] Adequate contact information in the RIPE database must be enforced (was: NCC#2008090071 Unreachable Italian Host)

On Sep 3, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Shane Kerr wrote:

> There are a couple of problems with this though:
>
> 1. It costs money, both on the side of the NCC and the contact.
> 2. There is no enforcement mechanism.
>
> I would be happy for the NCC to spend money on this, but I don't
> represent an LIR. ;)

I do and I'm happy to support and even co-author a proposal about  
something like this. But at this point in time I can't think of any  
working solution as we indeed lack the tools to enforce.

> For resources allocated or assigned to an LIR, this should be pretty
> straightforward. Every LIR pays a fee each year, after all!
>
> For other resources (PI blocks and AS numbers) it is more difficult,
> since there is no established relationship with anyone(*). But, it is
> still possible to look at the routing tables and contact peers to  
> figure
> this out, with some work.

It basically also goes for PA, escpecially large LIR's usually can  
have multiple role accounts and not every country/department keeps  
their info accurate. And then of course theirs the group who actually  
put contacts in for the customer using the space.

If you go upstream to the allocations I think the organisation object  
can be pretty accurate as it's also used for certain communications  
between the LIR and NCC but I can imagine you want a more fine grain.

>
> This is probably more something for the services working group.


Agree...

MarcoH