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Daniel Karrenberg
daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net
Wed Mar 6 13:05:36 CET 2013
The overall goal is to have a correct registry and to provide registry users with the information they seek. We *want* users to come to our registry to seek this information and not rely on all sorts of tools that make even worse guesses. We have agreed on a policy to provide mandatory abuse contact information in the long run. In the meantime we should provide the best information we can. Now if someone can *maintain* this information it serves a purpose to notify *this maintainer* of abuse in the absence of better data in the registry. Of course the intended result is that they *maintain* the registry data *add* abuse contact information. There is a tremendous effort coming up to implement abuse-c. It will not happen magically. It will involve a lot of maintainers and local IRs, especially in the PI cases. Daniel On 06.03.2013, at 12:38 , Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 12:06:33PM +0100, Denis Walker wrote: >> There is still a link to NETASSIST-MNT: >> >> inetnum: 31.133.32.0 - 31.133.63.255 >> org: ORG-FTVM1-RIPE >> >> organisation: ORG-FTVM1-RIPE >> admin-c: TV1866-RIPE >> >> person: Trubnikov Valeriy >> nic-hdl: TV1866-RIPE >> mnt-by: NETASSIST-MNT >> >> This nicely highlights the main problem with the legacy abuse contact >> management. It relies on this spaghetti of relationships between many >> objects in the database. > > And the over-eagerness of the current abuse finder implementation - I've > been there as well, and the usefulness of walking the inetnum -> person -> > mnt-by -> ... chain can be seriously doubted. > > I've said before that I would really prefer if you didn't do that, because > that way, LIRs that happen to have added a person: object at some point > in the past now happen to get abuse complaints for networks where they > really cannot do anything, except "remove the mnt-by:" - and I really > doubt there are cases where this is more useful than just returning > "uh, we did not find anything". > > Except it looks "better", of course, to return something for a higher > percentage of queries. Sufficiently pointy-haired metrics assumed. > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 > >
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