[db-wg] Recognisition of Kosovo and adding of LIR signup options with Kosovo as well as XK in inet(6)num
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William Weber
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Thu Nov 17 06:58:21 CET 2022
It is not really as the Netherlands and the EU recognise Kosovo as independent country. By your logic Taiwan/TW should also be not selectable, it however is - and Taiwan is recognised by much less countries ("UN members") than Kosovo. -- William On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 6:48 AM Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote: > I’m with DRC on this one… This isn’t RIPE’s call to make, it’s the UN’s. > You’re barking up the wrong tree. > > -Bill > > > On Nov 17, 2022, at 12:09 AM, William Weber via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> > wrote: > > > > Did anything ever happen with this? I still have to use Albania and with > the new country set in ORGs i and other ISPs in Kosovo have even more > problems now. > > > > We are extremely unhappy with this situation, the RIPE NCC and Dutch > government can expect an official complaint letter from the Kosovarian > government very soon if there is not even any attempt at talking with > us/the gov and fixing this issue. > > > > I simply do not understand how we can be entirely ignored while even our > banks usem XK IBANs and Euro as currency, it is absurd. > > > > -- > > William > > BASEHOST SHPK > > Pristina, Kosovo > > > > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 10:33 PM William Weber <william at inbox.li> wrote: > > In the end i dont care, Kosovo is a country (acknowledged by 50%+ of UN > members including NL) > > and i want to be able to use it as intended. > > > > — > > William > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On 13.05.2022, at 21:58, David Conrad <drc at virtualized.org> wrote: > >> > >> William, > >> > >>> On May 13, 2022, at 2:11 AM, William Weber via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> > wrote: > >>> I am aware the the X* series of codes is reserved and not permanently > assigned, however UN Security Council resolution 1244/99 (see 6) mandates > the use binding to all UN members. > >>> > >> > >> The “X*” series is not reserved, they are (permanently) designated for > “user-assigned” use. Think 10/8. Anyone (including RIPE) can use them for > whatever purpose they so choose, just as anyone can use 10/8. Of course, > your use and my use might conflict, but that’s for us to work out between > us (with the obvious scaling implications that suggests). > >> > >> FYI, EU is different in that it is “exceptionally reserved”. It is one > of a number of ISO-3166 codes that have that status (including UK, AC, DG, > SU, and a few others). AP is a bit weird (IMHO) in that ISO-3166 > Maintenance Agency has stated that they will not use the code “at the > present stage.” I gather that’s an informal agreement between ISO-3166/MA > and WIPO. I’ve no clue what that means for the long-term status of that > code. > >> > >> The real question is what would break if RIPE chooses to use a user > assigned code in their database. I’ve no idea, but to be honest, I’m a bit > uncomfortable with the precedent it might set (and political foodfight it > might generate given the UN Statistical Agency hasn’t seen fit to recommend > the creation of an actual ISO-3166 code). However, I doubt my comfort > matters. > >> > >> As far as I can tell, your reference to UN Security Council resolution > 1244/99 is irrelevant, particularly as it (appropriately, given the status > of the ISO-3166 code) doesn’t mention XK. > >> > >> FWIW, Jaap Akkerhuis, a person well known to many on this list, is > extremely well-versed in the world of ISO-3166 and could probably provide > any info you might need related to the use of ISO-3166 codes. > >> > >> Regards, > >> -drc > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/db-wg/attachments/20221117/57940708/attachment-0001.html>
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