[members-discuss] Proposed 2012 Charging scheme, Board comments
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Hank Nussbacher
hank at efes.iucc.ac.il
Mon Oct 3 10:56:50 CEST 2011
At 09:40 03/10/2011 +0100, Simon Lockhart wrote: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-507 2010: 16.5M 2011: 17.9M During 2002-2006 the budget was under or close to 10M and since 2007 the budget has gone up and up. You can assume 2012 will be well over 18M. -Hank >Has anyone from RIPE said that the budget is 12M? 15M? 18M? Is just just >speculation on the part of one member? > >Has RIPE actually said what the cost per member is going to be? > >I've not seen anything sent to the list, but there seems to be plenty of >bad feeling about supposed massive price increases. > >Simon > >On Mon Oct 03, 2011 at 08:35:19AM +0100, Jon Morby wrote: > > 18m Euro? > > > > Perhaps in these times of austerity we should be looking at reducing > operating costs not increasing them. > > > > Even ?15m seems somewhat excessive in my mind despite the numerous > benefits RIPE brings to the Internet as a whole (most of which we don't > realise or see) :( > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 2 Oct 2011, at 19:51, "SPEEDNIC S.R.L. - RIPE Handling" > <ripe-lir at speednic.eu> wrote: > > > > > Hi Gert, > > > > > > Am 02.10.2011 14:39, schrieb Gert Doering: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 11:10:23AM -0300, SPEEDNIC S.R.L. - RIPE > Handling wrote: > > >>> As revewed the change matrix it means that like all membres will > > >>> increase one or two categories in the charging scheme. Only a very > small > > >>> amount will decrease. This guess to us that the budget will increase a > > >>> lot too ?? Why RIPE NCC will need a so high budget for 2012 instead of > > >>> 2011 ?? > > >> > > >> The distribution of LIRs to charging categories happens in such a way > > >> that the resulting income will match the budget. Normally the budget > > >> for 2012 should not be much higher than for 2011 (detailed numbers will > > >> usually be published before the AGM), so it looks like you have not used > > >> fully correct numbers. > > >> > > >> Gert Doering > > >> -- NetMaster > > > > > > sorry but I must tell you that you're wrong. I have based the members > > > (Budget 2011 - 7725 Members - from RIPE document > > > > https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm/november-2010/ChargingSchemeslides.pdf) > > > > with the change matrix of 2012 and have recalculated the fees with the > > > following result : > > > > > > Based on a calculation of 7725 members in Year 2011 the budget was about > > > 15.190.750 EUR (based on 2011 charging prices) for the member fees. > > > > > > Based on the new 2012 scheme the budget will be about 18.538.000 EUR > > > (+/- a little bit in fact of rounding difference). So in total we can > > > speak about an increase of more than 3.000.000 EUR (about +20% as for > > > 2011) of the member fees !?!?!?! > > > > > > In my calculation I don't putting in the PI space because the price of > > > 50 EUR hasn't changed. I never seen that the costs will increase 20% > > > within one year. So what you mean now ?? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Alexander Schoberl > > > SPEEDNIC S.R.L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > > > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the > general page: > > > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view > > > > > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". > From here, you can add or remove addresses. > > > > ---- > > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the > general page: > > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view > > > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From > here, you can add or remove addresses. > >-- >Simon Lockhart | Tel: +44 1275 793 400 | Si fractum >Technical Director | Mob: +44 7789 913304 | non sit, noli >Cablecom Networking Ltd | WWW: www.cablecomnetworking.co.uk | id reficere >Unit 3-5 Windmill Business Park, Windmill Road, Kenn. BS21 6SR. UK > >---- >If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the >general page: >https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view > >Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From >here, you can add or remove addresses.
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