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andre at ox.co.za
Mon Aug 29 06:22:30 CEST 2016
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 01:05:41 -0300 "Marilson" <marilson.mapa at gmail.com> wrote: > > And, Marilson, telling me that I am an example of a single abuse > > resource, when all I am doing is simply trying to understand what > > the heck you are talking about (as you are using the wrong English > > words) is not cool. I did not once call you any names or say > > anything personally rude about you, I know exactly how fast things > > can be in a third or fourth or even fifth+ language :( > > Your comments are full of arrogance and veiled insults. And you are > being a hypocrite in saying that is not rude. End an offense with a > smiley does not improve your attitude. And you need to understand > that does not own the truth and must learn to live with > contradictory. :) > We are discussing Internet Abuse - and, to be clear - I still have no idea what you are talking about. Your diatribe makes no sense and I am giving up trying to figure out what it means as it is simply too much effort. > STEAL > As verb (used with object): > to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or > acknowledgment. to take, get, or win insidiously, surreptitiously, > subtly, or by chance. to move, bring, convey, or put secretly or > quietly; smuggle. Baseball - (of a base runner) to gain (a base) > without the help of a walk or batted ball. Games - to gain (a point, > advantage, etc.) by strategy, chance, or luck. to gain or seize more > than one's share of attention in, as by giving a superior > performance: The comedian stole the show. > > As verb (used without object): > to move, go, or come secretly, quietly, or unobserved: She stole out > of the house at midnight. to pass, happen, etc., imperceptibly, > gently, or gradually: The years steal by. > > As noun: > Informal - an act of stealing. > Informal - the thing stolen. > Informal - something acquired at a cost far below its real value; > bargain: This dress is a steal at $40. > > As Idioms: > steal someone's thunder, to appropriate or use another's idea, > plan,words, etc. Examples from the Web for steal: > to steal music without paying a dime for it. > to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own. > "We steal our own happiness for no apparent reason," says Danziger. > “Sometimes they are said to steal only the heart—like Lancashire > witches.” John Gibson Lockhart. > > to steal a glance at > to steal a march upon someone > to steal a marriage > to steal away > to steal out > to steal upon someone > to steal someone’s heart > to steal someone’s thunder > to steal the show > > I STOLE this... sorry Andre, I PICKED UP this using Internet. > > I will tell you when it is forbidden to use the word stole: > Great nations never stole, simply took in order to make themselves > great. (Solon) > > Marilson > _____________________________________________ > > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 16:06:20 -0300 > From: "Marilson" <marilson.mapa at gmail.com> > To: "ox" <andre at ox.co.za> > Cc: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Definition of Abuse - preamble > Message-ID: <FEF0ACC9459247D986724B37A65789E4 at xPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Please, Andre. I'm sorry if I'm forcing you to be so so vulgar that I > can understand your extraordinary knowledge about abuse on the > Internet. Do not worry, your technical colleagues will understand you. > > Sorry my low intellectual capacity, but you used the following > expressions to explain what is not Internet Abuse: > > > No, it is not an abuse group for people whose pc's has been stolen > > or abused in their homes. > > Now, it is clear that you could also have said: the cat crushed by > that car is not of account of this abuse group. I'm sorry but I > thought you was talking about internet. > > When I wrote: > > If someone had their home PC infected or abused, it's because > > someone used the means and tools provided by RIRs, Registrars and > > ISPs. > > You reply: > > Just stealing a pc - Is called theft... > > I hope this helps you understand? > > If not, maybe you can provide a lot more specifics of how stealing > > a pc is Internet Abuse? Thank you so much! > > Disregarding the excess of arrogance in your words I explained how > stealing a pc is Internet Abuse: > > > If a computer was infected for sending spam or malicious files, it > > was stolen. After all we are talking about Internet, right? > And you wrote in your second reply: > > If someone steals your PC or breaks into your home to steal your pc > > It is NOT Internet Abuse... (emphasis added) > > Wow! Now we are talking about breaking and entering to steal objects, > that is, we are talking about the cat crushed by that car is not of > account of that abuse group. Compare with the original sentence: ?No, > it is not an abuse group for people whose pc's has been stolen or > abused in their homes.? > > You were talking about potatoes and I was talking about orange. The > difference is that my orange was synonymous of Internet and their > potato was ... potatoes. Just to be technically clear :) Pall, you > are a real world example of a single resource abuse. But your > definition still holds up... Good lucky Marilson
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