[anti-abuse-wg] GDPR - positive effects on email abuse
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Sascha Luck [ml]
aawg at c4inet.net
Tue May 29 21:04:47 CEST 2018
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:43:03AM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > <much ranting> ... Sucks when all the free stuff you've been using to make money gets taken away, doesn't it? LOL, Sascha Luck >In message <9d061c1e-2d17-48b1-fc72-3c08026bbf2c at key-systems.net>, >Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote: > >>Even in those cases, whois is but one tool that helps identify bad >>actors by means of violating privacy rights of millions. > >I am compelled to point out, once again, the fundamentally demented >nature of this new-fangled "entitlement" insanity that has been invented, >literally out of whole cloth, and within just the past few years by >various self-appointed "privacy advocates" in Europe and elsewhere. > >When exactly did it become a part of the UN's Universal Declaration of >Human Rights that everyone on planet earth is entitled to -both- utter >annonymity (and thus also utter un-accountability) -and- their own >Internet domain nanmes? I guess that I wasn't paying attention that >day. I didn't get the memo. > >I say again that the possession and use of an Internet domain name is >-not- (and never has been) a "right" but rather a privilege... one >that has been, traditionally, and for more than 35 years now, afforded >only to those who were willing to contractually, and of their own free >will, exchange a tiny bit of their anonymity for the distinct and clear >privilege of registering a domain name. > >Now however, the brilliant bureaucrats of Brussels... who nobody, even >in the EU voted for, and certainly no one in all of Asia and/or the >entire Western Hemisphere... have unilaterally decided, in their infinite >wisdom, to upend a system of accountability that was working reasonbly >well for over 35 years just so that they could claim that they are >"protecting" a miniscule population of shy transvestites from some >imaginary modern day Stasi. No proof is or can be offered that this >is either a sensible thing to do, or that it will protect these new, >alleged, and entirely made up "rights" of anyone. > >Throwing out bits and pieces of longstanding and reasonable social >contracts, based on nothing at all, leads to clearly ludicrous outcomes. >You Europeans who are not yet beyond being educated may perhaps benefit >from googling for "Michael Rotondo" and then start reading. This man's >story illustrates, vividly, the final endpoint of the exact same "entitlement" >insanity that has now apparently come to infect the entire global Internet. > >It must be stated also that nobody in their right mind would have ever >even entertained the idea of killing off WHOIS, wholesale, except for >the fact that these new GDPR edicts coming out of Brussels played right >into the hands of the greedy oligarchs who these days run the Internet. >The registries, the registrars, and their paid lackeys at ICANN had long >wished to rid themselves of what they view as an unnecessary and unprofitable >business expense, i.e. running the open WHOIS system. They were thus only >too happy to bend over for Brussels and give up without even putting up a >struggle at all, because they hoped to save themselves the expense of running >WHOIS servers and/or, at the very least, making it more difficult for their >competitors to identify and then poach their respective client bases (as >actually happened, btw, in a notorious case several years ago involving >Register.com). > >The arogant idiocy of Brussels, working in tandem with the greed of the >registrars and registries has set back the causes of transparency and >accountability on the Internet not merely by years but literally by decades. >I, for one, sure do hope that there are in fact at least one or two shy >transvestites out there somewhere who are celebrating this outcome, >because for the rest of the planet it is tragedy of epic proportions, >one which shall be recognized by all in the coming years. > >>And maybe it is time to ensure law enforcement is better equipped to >>deal with such issues earlier and faster. Up to now, governments have >>been afforded the luxury of being able to underfund such efforts as >>others were doing their jobs for them. Maybe this will lead to better >>law enforcement and international cooperation. > >I cannot help but wonder which pharmaceutical substances, in particular, >are capable of inducing this level of utopian daydreams. I would very >much like to get ahold of some of that, so that I too could, at least >on the weekends, also inhabit a world where police forces the world over >are so well endowed that cybercrime as we have known it simply ceases to >exist and fades into humankind's collective memory. > >It would certainly be enjoyable to be able to take a break from -this- >reality, where police forces the world over, often even by their own >admissions, are increasingly out-matched, out-funded, and out-thought by >the ever increasing plethora of newly invented forms of both online crime >and online political subterfuge. > > >Regards, >rfg > > >P.S. The essential idiocy of applying GDPR to the gobal WHOIS system can >most simply and elegantly be demonstrated by pointing out the non-existance >of answers to the following simple question: > > Other than greedy registrars and registries, cybercriminals, and a select > handful of Russian state-backed disinformation operatives, who exactly > either has benefited or will benefit from the application of GDPR to the > global domain name WHOIS system? > >For all of the hoopla and shouting about privacy "rights", none of the >advocates of this insanity have, to date, identified even a single real >beneficiary of this introduction of unaccountability into the global >Internet ecosystem, nor are they able to do so, because there are none... >except of course for the aformentioned greedy registrars, registries, >cybercriminals, and state-sponsored purveyors of disinformation. > >The application of GDPR to the global WHOIS is, was, and always has been >a solution in search of a problem, and I challenge any of its supporters >to convincingly demonstrate otherwise. >
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