[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 Discussion Phase (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")
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Carlos Friaças
cfriacas at fccn.pt
Tue Oct 1 16:15:02 CEST 2019
Hi Nick, All, On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Marco Schmidt wrote on 01/10/2019 13:18: >> As per the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP), the purpose of this >> four-week Discussion Phase is to discuss the proposal and provide feedback >> to the proposer. > > This version addresses none of the issues I brought up with the previous > version in May: > >> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/2019-May/005120.html > > There isn't a major problem with the RIPE NCC testing abuse mailboxes on a > purely advisory basis, but the RIPE abuse working group has no authority to I'm sure you meant the RIPE *anti*-abuse working group :-))) > dictate to internet resource holders how to perform their abuse management > workflow, with an explicit threat that their businesses will be ruined unless > they comply to the letter. I don't think it's a matter of authority, but only a matter of understanding if the community wants to tighten the requeriments (or not). > Alex de Joode pointed out on May 17th that the proposal also lacks > proportionality and would be unlikely to be upheld in court. It seems > inadvisable that the RIPE NCC should implement a policy with such poor legal > basis. What you mean is that if someone just flushes some bogus abuse contact, it isn't as serious as providing falsified data/documents to the RIPE NCC....? Because that bogus data is not aimed at the NCC but instead at the world, then it should be OK...? > The policy is fundamentally broken and should be withdrawn. I haven't read this version yet, but i will. Regards, Carlos > Nick >
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