[anti-abuse-wg] Call For Agenda Items RIPE 80
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Arash Naderpour
arash.naderpour at gmail.com
Mon Apr 20 13:30:57 CEST 2020
I appreciate if no one including the Co-chairs speaks on behalf of "everyone" in the list. in my opinion is it very unlikely that "everyone" has the same opinion in a public mailing list which is totally fine. Best regards, Arash On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:41 PM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie> wrote: > Elad, > > Let me be very clear here, we will not be discussing this during the > meeting in May. > > Repeated assertions do not make a thing true and at this point everyone is > very clear on your opinion of Spamhaus. I will ask you directly to cease > these kinds of emails to the list. This is the last time I hope I have to > say this. > > Brian > Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG > > Brian Nisbet > Service Operations Manager > HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network > 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland > +35316609040 brian.nisbet at heanet.ie www.heanet.ie > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > > ________________________________________ > From: Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> > Sent: Monday 20 April 2020 10:11 > To: Brian Nisbet; anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net > Subject: Re: Call For Agenda Items RIPE 80 > > CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. > Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the > sender and know the content is safe. > > > Hello Brian, > > I have a matter that I would like to raise: > > The anti-abuse illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" and > how it is damaging and hurting many businesses worldwide, how the contacts > of that illegal anonymous organizations are part of the anti-abuse > community (including in this working group like Richard D G Cox was) and > how they are violating global privacy laws with the support of LEA's - all > of it in illegal way according to the LEA's countries and according to the > following presentation of "The Spamhaus Project": > > > https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation > < > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scribd.com%2Fdocument%2F445894312%2FSpamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021490189&sdata=FRYOtS2YOdR7mbCRzPZY6XIyYhhUi1UAJ2BWWmiTwOc%3D&reserved=0 > > > > --- > > Besides it, there is another matter of "The Spamhaus Project" not being > regulated and supervised by any country/government/LEA - in this way > members of "The Spamhaus Project" can abuse it for their own benefits, for > example the criminal which is the owner of the twitter account > https://twitter.com/underthebreach< > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Funderthebreach&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021490189&sdata=8ulNyrx0SdD0zO0Qq4nDHvEA5d8Aqi2%2FHyKd3hF3tG8%3D&reserved=0> > and is part of "The Spamhaus Project", for example Laura Atkins from > WordToTheWise (https://wordtothewise.com/< > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwordtothewise.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021500188&sdata=ZdxcdA1R6A4VoDdTSs0L6RU6AmK%2B5qyh9LFypvv8dck%3D&reserved=0>) > which is selling a Spamhaus listing removal service, for example members of > "The Spamhaus Project" which are working in email delivery companies and > "The Spamhaus Project" is attacking their competitors. > > --- > > Another matter that I would like to raise is the use of profiling in the > anti-abuse community including in "The Spamhaus Project", profiling is > being used by dumb people that don't know how to their work otherwise, it > is the "easy" (and to my opinion - highly illegal) way. The anti-abuse > community should raise its voice against any kind of profiling being done > by the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". > > Respectfully, > Elad > > ________________________________ > From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of Brian > Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie> > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:08 AM > To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net> > Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Call For Agenda Items RIPE 80 > > Colleagues, > > As you are all no doubt aware RIPE 80 will be an online only meeting. > > This is a new departure for us all, but significant preparation has > already been done and I'm really looking forward to a great event. > > The Anti-Abuse WG has a slot from 10:00 - 10:45 CEST on Thursday 14th May. > If you have any matters you'd like to raise, please let me know as soon as > possible. > > And remember, you need to register for RIPE 80. You can do so, free of > charge, here: > > https://ripe80.ripe.net/attend/register/< > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fripe80.ripe.net%2Fattend%2Fregister%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021500188&sdata=aIrgfJsl9e5dcMx40bwT26KuwEvpkXk8VkRJ2ixDo18%3D&reserved=0 > > > > Thanks, > > Brian > > Brian Nisbet > Service Operations Manager > HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network > 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland > +35316609040 brian.nisbet at heanet.ie www.heanet.ie< > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heanet.ie%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021510181&sdata=PldOxaTQi0hxgWkwLszBdlwvuROmZjcFG9bZoHUQlF4%3D&reserved=0 > > > Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. 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