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Pavel Odintsov
odintsov at fastvps.ru
Thu Feb 11 15:42:18 CET 2016
Hello, folks! That's good conversation. I'm representing VPS service company. We bought multiple /20 and /21 subnets at last 2 years. But actually there really big injustice exists here! I've followed all RIPE guidance and request resources only when they really required for next 3-6 months. I have 95% subnet utilization in each network! All my IP addresses really used. But I known so much LIR's who just ignore RIPE rules and requested bunch of /18, /16 networks many years ago.... just because they can. Right now almost all this networks are on IPv4 market. And I should pay my money to persons which violated RIPE rules for a long time. Than't really weird, isn't it? On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Radu Brebu <dial at dialcube.ro> wrote: > Hi all, > > This is a socialist way of thinking, you are free (ipotetic speaking) to > open another lir and satisfy your VPS needs no? some companies prefer to > plan their business long term. In my opinion it's not ok to prioritize > resources keeping in mind only the need. We are leaving and doing business > in a capitalist environment, buying resources it is what is all about. > > > On 02/11/16 16:19, José Manuel Giner wrote: > >> I agree with it. We need IPs to continue providing VPS servers, and other >> LIRs with unused prefixes, no sense... >> >> >> >> On 11/02/2016 15:09, Aleksey Bulgakov wrote: >> >>> Hi, all. >>> >>> I think, it is better to return unused allocations, received before >>> 2012, to the NCC pool. >>> >>> -- >>> Kind regards, >>> Aleksey Bulgakov >>> FastTelecom, CEO >>> 7 926 6908729 >>> >>> 14:02, 11 февраля 2016 г., Nigel Titley : >>> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> The RIPE NCC Executive Board would like to ask the membership to >>> discuss >>> the issue of RIPE NCC members opening additional LIR accounts. >>> >>> There were comments at the RIPE NCC General Meeting (GM) in November >>> 2015 that members having the ability to open additional LIR accounts, >>> each of which can request a /22 of IPv4 address space, may run >>> against >>> the spirit of the last /8 policy. In light of this, the Board >>> decided to >>> temporarily suspend the ability of RIPE NCC members to open >>> additional >>> LIR accounts. >>> >>> The RIPE NCC began to allocate IPv4 address space from the last /8 >>> policy on 14 September 2012. Since that time the RIPE NCC has >>> allocated >>> more than 8,600 /22s, yet there remains 0.94 of a /8 still in the >>> pool. >>> >>> ACTION REQUIRED: >>> The Board asks the membership to provide their opinion on and discuss >>> the following points: >>> >>> 1. Is the activity of members opening additional LIR accounts a >>> problem >>> that must be prevented? >>> >>> 2. If this activity is a problem that must be prevented, what action >>> should the RIPE NCC take to attempt its prevention? >>> >>> Statistics pertinent to this discussion are available in this >>> article on >>> RIPE Labs: >>> >>> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/laura_cobley/ripe-ncc-members-and-multiple-lir-accounts?pk_campaign=members&pk_kwd=list-ncc >>> >>> The Board asks that members discuss this issue on the Members Discuss >>> mailing list . >>> >>> The Board will monitor the discussion and will review it at the next >>> Executive Board Meeting on 31 March 2016. Depending on the outcome of >>> that meeting, the Board may propose a resolution for members to >>> vote on >>> at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2016. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Nigel Titley >>> RIPE NCC Executive Board >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >>> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the >>> general page: >>> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ >>> >>> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From >>> here, you can add or remove addresses. >>> >> >> >> > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the > general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From > here, you can add or remove addresses. > -- Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov CTO, FastVPS Eesti OU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20160211/dcf1ff2d/attachment.html>
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