[members-discuss] LIR’s billing issues with RIPE NCC, need support

Hello.

>Each policy is done after policy proposal, discussions in mailing list or workgroups, voting on RIPE meetings.
This is not about RIPE decision, it is about LIR's decision based on
the majority of votes.

Let me disagree with you. Many decisions made on the Executive Board
Meetings, where is the management only and there aren't any votes or
discussions between the members. E.g. step by step open additional LIR
accounts, duplicate accounts in case of the M&A procedure between
different organizations and so on. You can find it in the official
documentation here
https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2018/draft-minutes-118th-ripe-ncc-executive-board-meeting
чт, 6 дек. 2018 г. в 14:12, Yakimus // VOKS support <ripe at voks.ua>:
>
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 12:49:47AM +0300, Juri wrote:
> > Hello Erik,
> >
> > I am just talking about clear and understandable billing, nothing more.
> > If RIPE NCC want to charge for 3 years - let them charge for 3 years.
> > if you they want to charge for 2 years - let them charge for 2.
> >
> > But I am strongly against when RIPE NCC each month decide something new
> > and change billing way to unpredictable one. And RIPE NCC changes this
> > billing issues upto them with out any discussion with LIRs.
> >
> > You are not facing with this and thinking in other way. I face with that
> > lot of time and have a lot of feedback from other LIRs. And I just want
> > billing ways will be predictable, described and clear for all RIPE NCC
> > members.
>
> That is not does in the way thay you say
> Each policy is done after policy proposal, discussions in mailing list or workgroups, voting on RIPE meetings.
> This is not about RIPE decision, it is about LIR's decision based on the majority of votes.
>
> Basic old rule (a lot time before the last /8 was reached) is that if you need more space, you need to prove that your old space is used and that you really need more space for your LIR, not for reselling. And it didn't basically change for years.
> IP space is not the subject of buyung|selling.
>
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> > And I am talking right to make RIPE NCC services better for LIRs.
> >
> >
> > Juri.
> >
> >
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