[members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Open House: Recording and Slides Available

Wed Apr 10 15:46:56 CEST 2024

Im suggest this scheme

LIR membership fixed fee - 100 EUR/year per account
+
Resouce based fee:
- ASN - 0 EUR/year per ASN
- IPv6 - 0.05 EUR/year per IPv6 /48 (i.e. /48 = 0.05 EUR/year, /29 = 50 
EUR/year)
- IPv4 - 0.046875 EUR/year per IPv4 /32 (i.e. /24 = 12 EUR/year, /22 = 
48 EUR/year)

With parsed public stats from RIPE its resulted as

= 42 529 216 EUR (TOTAL)
--------------------------------
    2 149 200 EUR (LIR fixed fee)
    1 152 761 EUR (IPv6)
   39 227 255 EUR (IPv4)

Someone say, ITS TO HIGH...

But stop!

IPv/4 on market for lease cost over 100 EUR/month (or 1200 EUR/year), 
but for LIR its will be cost only 12 EUR/year(!) - x100 difference!

If some LIR dont want to have x100 profit over year - then, this LIR can 
return resources to RIPE pool and its will be RE-distributed across LIRs 
who seek resources.

On 10.04.2024 13:38, Fergal Cunningham wrote:
> Dear Martin,
> 
> The Executive Board decided on these draft options at its meeting on 
> 25th of March. So now the Board and management will follow the feedback 
> on the draft proposal on the list. They will decide by 24 April if these 
> will be the final options to vote on at the GM or if they want to make 
> amendments. So essentially the decision on what gets voted on at the GM 
> is made by the Board. You can see the minutes from that meeting here 
> (section 3.3 on the Charging Scheme):
> https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board/minutes/2024/174th-executive-board-meeting-minutes/
> 
> And it's worth mentioning that this list is for members to discuss the 
> issues while we and the board will listen. But we will of course reply 
> and provide information to address the points raised if at all possible.
> 
> All the best,
> Fergal
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 2:41 PM <sdy at a-n-t.ru <mailto:sdy at a-n-t.ru>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi all!
> 
>     I want to ask add to vote variant D.
>     All as was before+5% inflation and 10E per 1024 addresses IPv4 per year
>     (counting at 31 december). Can we try to vote it too?
> 
>      >
>      >> On 22 Mar 2024, at 15:27, Fergal Cunningham <fergalc at ripe.net
>     <mailto:fergalc at ripe.net>> wrote:
>      >>
>      >> Dear all,
>      >>
>      >> This Wednesday, 20 March, we held an Open House with members
>     about the
>      >> RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025. There was a presentation from
>     RIPE NCC
>      >> staff, including our CFO and Managing Director, as well as
>     statements
>      >> from both the Executive Board Chair and Treasurer.
>      >>
>      >> There was a productive discussion about the financial landscape
>     we are
>      >> operating in and thoughts about how best to fund the RIPE NCC. The
>      >> Executive Board will meet on Monday and discuss what we heard
>     this week,
>      >> and they will decide on a draft charging proposal to put forward
>     to the
>      >> members in April.
>      >>
>      >> The session recording and the slides from the presentation are
>     available
>      >> at:
>      >>
>     https://www.ripe.net/membership/meetings/open-house/ripe-ncc-charging-scheme-2025/
>      >>
>      >> At the bottom of this mail you can find the timestamps for the
>     sections
>      >> of the presentation and Q&A.
>      >>
>      >> We greatly appreciate the input we received from members this
>     week and
>      >> the constructive nature of the discussions. We encourage you all to
>      >> continue to discuss the charging scheme on this list.
>      >>
>      >> Kind regards,
>      >>
>      >> Fergal Cunningham
>      >> Head of Membership Engagement
>      >> RIPE NCC
>      >>
>      >> Open House Timestamps
>      >>
>      >> 01:30 Welcome and Agenda, Fergal Cunningham
>      >> 04:30 Development and History of the Charging Scheme, Fergal
>     Cunningham
>      >> 12:45 Consolidation and Inflation, Simon Jan Haytink
>      >> 19:10 The Work We Need to Fund, Simon Jan Haytink
>      >> 22:30 Summary and Key Questions, Hans Petter Holen
>      >> 27:20 Statement from Executive Board Chair, Ondřej Filip
>      >> 30:30 Statement from Executive Board Treasurer, Raymond Jetten
>      >> 32:45 Q&A with RIPE NCC Members
>      >
>      > Dear Fergal,
>      >
>      > What is the formal process of deciding what options the AGM get
>     to vote
>      > at, during the upcoming AGM?
>      >
>      >
>      > I would like to suggest a Consumer Price Index based re-indexing
>     of the
>      > costs, using standard European CPI numbers from Eurostat.  We all
>     have to
>      > deal with increases in costs due to inflation, and it’s fair that
>     RIPE
>      > does not have to fight inflation alone.  Yearly inflation as
>     released in
>      > March 2024 was at 2.4% —
>      >
>     https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-euro-indicators/w/2-03042024-ap
>      >
>      > Best regards,
>      > Martin_______________________________________________
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