[members-discuss] Charging scheme 2025 proposal (logarithmic)

Sat Apr 20 11:44:18 CEST 2024

Hi Sebastien,

I think IPv6 allocations larger than /29 aren't very common. Your proposal again puts too much load on smaller LIRs. I strongly prefer the several proposed linear models like:

- 0.01 to 0.1 EUR per IPv4/32 (multiple proposals)
- 7.92 EUR per IPv4/24 (my proposal of 2024-04-12 => Neutral to current RIPE NCC budget)
- 20 EUR per IPv4/24 for the first 1750 /24 (James A.T. Rice's proposal of 2024-04-19)

@RIPE: I would like to see at least one of the above models to choose from.

@Sebastien: Your proposal is by FAR the most expensive for smaller LIRs:
Your Cost for the smaller LIRs following the proposed parameters:
1st /24: free
1st /23: 217 (EUR 109 per /24)
1st /22: 501 (EUR 125 per /24)
1st /21: 873 (EUR 108 per /24)
1st /20: 1361 (EUR 85 per /24)
1st /19: 2000 (EUR 62 per /24)
1st /18: 2837 (EUR 44 per /24)

Regards,

Claudius

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On 20.04.24 10:32, Sebastien Brossier wrote:
> On 16/04/2024 16:37, Mihail Fedorov wrote:
>> I once again advise to put less charges on IPv6. Genrally it’s a good and correct approach. But in current reality this will result need to restructure v6 subnets for everyone, who opted into /29 but using /32 (which is what many small LIRs do) and create additional work for everyone. In some distant future there will be no difference but for now every occasion to motivate networks to have IPv6 should be valued.
>>
>> Apart from that that’s the scheme I would be happy to vote for.
> 
> Finally found some time to test some variants.
> Alternative parameters, where you can have up to /29 IPv6 at base fee (same total budget):
> 
> Base_Fee = 700 EUR
> Bit_Factor = 1.31
> Minimum_Fee = Base_Fee
> Offset_IPv4 = 8
> Offset_IPv6 = 27
> 
> No allocations:              700 EUR
> IPv4 /24 and/or IPv6 /29:       700 EUR
> IPv4 /23 and/or IPv6 /28:       917 EUR
> IPv4 /22 and/or IPv6 /27:      1201 EUR
> IPv4 /21 and/or IPv6 /26:      1573 EUR
> IPv4 /20 and/or IPv6 /25:      2061 EUR
> IPv4 /19 and/or IPv6 /24:      2700 EUR
> IPv4 /18 and/or IPv6 /23:      3537 EUR
> IPv4 /17 and/or IPv6 /22:      4634 EUR
> IPv4 /16 and/or IPv6 /21:      6071 EUR
> IPv4 /15 and/or IPv6 /20:      7953 EUR
> IPv4 /14 and/or IPv6 /19:     10418 EUR
> IPv4 /13 and/or IPv6 /18:     13648 EUR
> IPv4 /12 and/or IPv6 /17:     17879 EUR
> IPv4 /11 and/or IPv6 /16:     23422 EUR
> IPv4 /10 and/or IPv6 /15:     30682 EUR
> IPv4 /9 and/or IPv6 /14:     40194 EUR
> IPv4 /8 and/or IPv6 /13:     52654 EUR
> Largest LIR:            65143 EUR
> 
> 
> Sebastien Brossier
> 
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