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sdy at a-n-t.ru
sdy at a-n-t.ru
Fri Apr 26 17:25:33 CEST 2024
Hi, Gert! If you want to stop some discussion - simply do not discuss it yourself. But for my opinion: Taking flat payment for deficit resouces - is the best way to fill NCC budget and return some unused IPv4 to RIPE. --- Serbulov Dmitry. >> On 26 Apr 2024, at 17:00, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote: >> >> The ARIN fee structure leads to LIRs going for a /36 instead, because >> it's >> cheaper - and that, of course, has consequences of the end user >> offerings. >> >> So whatever we go for, there should never be a financial incentive to >> reduce >> end user IPv6 assignment size for default-sized (non "extra large") LIR >> allocations. > > … and possibly IPv6 costs could create incentives to not deploy IPv6 at > all. > > Can we stop discussing (and believing) that high costs for IPv4 would lead > to enough IPv4 being returned to make everybody happy? > > That will never be the case! There simply isn’t enough IPv4, so let’s stop > riding that dead horse! > > The only sustainable way to support future development is by having > everything on IPv6. > > You can complain about unfair distribution of IPv4 as long as you want, > that’s now history that can't be changed. > > With IPv6, however, those historic “mistakes" can be avoided (and are > avoided). > > Cheers > > PS: “mistakes” in quotes because back then they were not considered > mistakes. In hindsight, you can discuss... > > Michel LANNERS > CIO at LU-CIX Management G.I.E. > -- > <https://www.luxchat.lu/> > Mail: michel.lanners at lu-cix.lu <mailto:michel.lanners at lu-cix.lu> > Luxchat: @3eb2pdflrq57:01.lu-cix.luxchat.lu > Phone: (+352) 28 99 29 92-81 > > LU-CIX Management G.I.E. > 202, Z.A.E. Wolser F > L-3290 Bettembourg > lu-cix.lu <https://www.lu-cix.lu/> > luxchat.lu <https://www.luxchat.lu/> > luxembourg-internet-days.com <https://luxembourg-internet-days.com/> > lunog.lu <https://www.lunog.lu/> > >> >> Gert Doering >> -- NetMaster >> -- >> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? >> >> SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, >> Ingo Lalla, Karin Schuler >> Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. >> Grundner-Culemann >> D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) >> Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/michel.lanners%40lu-cix.lu > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/sdy%40a-n-t.ru > ----------------------------- С уважением Сербулов Дмитрий ООО "Альфа Нет Телеком" +7(498)785-8-000 раб. +7(495)940-92-11 доп. +7(925)518-10-69 сот.
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