[members-discuss] RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Open House: Recording and Slides Available
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Daniel Pearson
daniel at privatesystems.net
Thu Mar 28 18:31:52 CET 2024
My opinion is the same as last year, it's very simple. If RIPE needs to raise prices a bit do so equally across the board for every LIR, but if RIPE is losing the # of LIR's due to mergers and consolidations then RIPE needs to downsize the budget accordingly. Daniel~ On 3/28/24 12:27, sdy at a-n-t.ru wrote: > I personally, last year I was an absolute supporter of the transition to > payment based on the number of allocated IP addresses. WITHOUT categories. > > But! This year, the economic situation in EU has changed dramatically. > Therefore, I consider: the transition to payment in terms of resources is > not relevant and even dangerous right now. The risk of problems for large > payers in the RIPE can completely destabilize its work. Perhaps we should > postpone this issue for a few years. Until the end in the coming huge > economic crisis. > >> On 28/03/2024 16:53, sdy at a-n-t.ru wrote: >>> Hi Sebastien. >>> >>> As you say, when you (and some other) talk about "the small" or "the >>> large" organization, what do you mean? >>> Let's say there are a LIR with 100,000 IPv4 addresses with a turnover of >>> 10,000 euros per year and a profit of 5,000 euros and an organization >>> with >>> 254 IPv4 addresses with a turnover of 1 million euros per year, and a >>> loss >>> of 100,000 euros at the end of the year. Which of them is small and >>> which >>> is big? >>> >>> Before talking about small and large organizations, you need criteria by >>> which you will evaluate them and the possibility of collecting such >>> information. >>> >>> Let's, stop this idea until we can't answer this question. >> You're right, small and big can mean different things and there are >> various financial realities. >> >> But the only practical metric for RIPE NCC is the number of IP >> addresses. From there we can only assume that LIRs with lots of IP >> addresses have enough money for a higher membership fee, and that LIRs >> with very limited finances just have their initial allocation. >> Far from perfect, but it is difficult to do better. >> >> For sure, taking company data into account would be more fair, but >> probably impractical. You have the problem of collecting data across the >> whole service region, and how to consider groups. The problem is even >> bigger if you want to take profit into account. >> >> >> >> Sebastien Brossier >> > > ----------------------------- > С уважением Сербулов Дмитрий > ООО "Альфа Нет Телеком" > +7(498)785-8-000 раб. > +7(495)940-92-11 доп. > +7(925)518-10-69 сот. > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/daniel%40privatesystems.net
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