[members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members

Sebastian,

Thanks for your reply, I appreciate everyone who comments.

To your point > "The RIPE NCC needs the budget to keep operating"

No one disagrees that RIPE doesn't need a budget, but for two years now 
we have been telling RIPE to reduce it's budget, yet they continue to 
hire employees, and propose an increased budget every year.

 > "If you want a change (I don’t), go through the available options, 
the board members explained multiple times what these are and that 
they’re listening to your complaints."

We did, the 'resolution' was added to be voted upon but it will carry no 
weight.

 > "Maintaining the old charging scheme is not one of the available options"

Why? What is so difficult that could not be achieved over the last 2 
years to reduce the budget to maintain the existing charging scheme. As 
a private company if you don't have the money (sales) to cover expenses 
you cut your budget. Sure you can raise prices on your consumers, and 
some companies do so, but smart companies know that it's a balancing 
act, and I've seen no visible signs of RIPE taking budget cuts 
seriously, so why should we be forced to pay more for their fiscal 
irresponsibility. They created this issue with the rush to register more 
LIR's just to get the last few block assignments, now the cash cow is 
gone and they got use to an increased budget.



On 5/14/24 7:26 AM, Sebastian Wiesinger wrote:
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>> On 14. May 2024, at 13:47, Daniel Pearson <daniel at privatesystems.net> wrote:
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>> It's quite obvious that a large portion of the membership is firmly against this: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/member-proposals/1/ , as of this date, 711 individual LIR's supported a motion to maintain the old charging scheme.
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> No it is not a large potion. There are roughly 20000 members, you’re talking about 3.5%. I know it is in vogue right now to just demand things, reality, law and facts be damned. Still:
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> The RIPE NCC needs the budget to keep operating. You can’t just suddenly pull funding because you feel like it. If you want a change (I don’t), go through the available options, the board members explained multiple times what these are and that they’re listening to your complaints. Maintaining the old charging scheme is not one of the available options. So it would be nice if people would accept the reality of the situation instead of repeating the same points ad nauseam.
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> Or just quit being a member if you feel it is not worth it. Sponsoring LIRs are available to you.
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> Regards
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> Sebastian
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