[members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members
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Mentor Leniqi
mentor.leniqi at albahost.net
Tue May 14 14:51:37 CEST 2024
Murat TERZIOGLU, actually the main issue is that there is no equality on the membership between LIRs, since we with one /24 pay the same amount as Sebastian with 100k of IPv4 space! And of course, those members with alot of resources feels comfortable with it! I would like to see those confortability, if there would be an policy/adoption to raise the membership fees to members like Sebastian by 5x more, and let see if he is comfortable with it! On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 2:45 PM <m.terzioglu at prebits.de> wrote: > Hi, > > do you know, how many members took part to the votes? If you compare to > the participation generally, it is a big part. And of course it is a > reaction of the members, many members. > > And the Sponsoring LIR is not a option. > > If you followed the complete discussion, there are reasonable critic of > many members.. > > In anyway, if the small resource holder, whereas they are about more than > 60% of actual members, make consolidation or move to other options, the > problem will again occur for remaining members and the board will try to > ensure the budget... > > So we will have discussion again. And we don’t have this discussion in > this year only. For years there is no solution for this problem and the 700 > people showed their reaction in different contexts. > > > "Or just quit being a member if you feel it is not worth it. Sponsoring > LIRs are available to you." By the way, this is not your decision I think.. > This is not a private family company... > > > If I were someone who owns for example /15 subnet, of course I would > prefer to have the offered proposals because the others with only /24 or > /23 subnet pay for my resources also... > > > > -- > Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards > > Murat TERZIOGLU > PREBITS > > Bochumer Str. 20 > 44866 Bochum > Deutschland > > Telefon: 0234/58825994 > Telefax: 0234/58825995 > > www.prebits.de > info at prebits.de > > USt-ID: DE315418902 > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> Im Auftrag von > Sebastian Wiesinger > Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2024 14:27 > An: members-discuss at ripe.net > Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] > Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members > > > > > On 14. May 2024, at 13:47, Daniel Pearson <daniel at privatesystems.net> > wrote: > > > > It's quite obvious that a large portion of the membership is firmly > against this: > https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/member-proposals/1/ , as of > this date, 711 individual LIR's supported a motion to maintain the old > charging scheme. > > > > No it is not a large potion. There are roughly 20000 members, you’re > talking about 3.5%. I know it is in vogue right now to just demand things, > reality, law and facts be damned. Still: > > The RIPE NCC needs the budget to keep operating. You can’t just suddenly > pull funding because you feel like it. If you want a change (I don’t), go > through the available options, the board members explained multiple times > what these are and that they’re listening to your complaints. Maintaining > the old charging scheme is not one of the available options. So it would be > nice if people would accept the reality of the situation instead of > repeating the same points ad nauseam. > > Or just quit being a member if you feel it is not worth it. Sponsoring > LIRs are available to you. > > > Regards > > Sebastian > > > > -- > Sebastian Wiesinger > Senior Principal Network Architect > Service Integration > > noris network AG > Thomas-Mann-Straße 16-20 > 90471 Nürnberg > Deutschland > > Tel +49 911 9352 1459 > Fax +49 911 9352 100 > Email sebastian.wiesinger at noris.de > > noris network AG - Mehr Leistung als Standard > Vorstand: Ingo Kraupa (Vorsitzender), Joachim Astel, Florian Sippel > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Stefan Schnabel - AG Nürnberg HRB 17689 > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/mentor.leniqi%40albahost.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20240514/f130098a/attachment.html>
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