[ncc-services-wg] Measures to Protect Ukrainian Networks
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Max Tulyev
president at ukraine.su
Tue Dec 13 19:26:00 CET 2022
Only you can do is to publish my personal data and link to a youcontrol company that you said is a corrupted non-representative source. And some slander, of course. It only shows the sample of ukrainian corrupted officials, and does not help to solve the problem in any way. 13.12.22 19:04, Федієнко Олександр Павлович via ncc-services-wg пише: > Mrs. Yulia, or perhaps Mr. Tulyev, who writes on behalf of Yulia, are you not tired of breaking comedy here yet? > > It is really funny when the same person writes, from different companies, although he is the ultimate beneficiary of all these companies:) > https://webber.net.ua/documents/index.html > https://youcontrol.com.ua/ru/catalog/company_details/24578034/ > Information about the ultimate beneficial owner (controller) of a legal entity, including the ultimate beneficial owner (controller) of its founder > > Тульєв Максим Валерійович > Україна, 04213, місто Київ, пр.Героїв Сталінграда, будинок , квартира > Maksym Valeriyovych Tuliev > Ukraine, 04213, city of Kyiv, Heroiv Stalingrada Ave., building, apartment > > We are all waiting for the appropriate new rules to be developed, I personally do not see any problems here. > Although here you can really remember the proverb, when the hat is on fire on the swindler. > > With respect to RIPE NCC > Fediienko Olexandr > Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncc-services-wg <ncc-services-wg-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of Yuri Varenitsa > Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 1:03 PM > To: ncc-services-wg at ripe.net > Subject: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Measures to Protect Ukrainian Networks > > Dear all > > We have sent almost dozen of tickets starting the November. Neither one is closed. > > What should I say to the clients? How long will it take now to get the answer to the tickets? > Can you give please approximate date of feedback? > > There is no such attitude even towards Iran and ru. > > All agreements and contracts were hung up thanks to the "wonderful" > actions of Fedienko and co, which are even NOT a LIR at all. "They helped so much." > > What will we do next? > > > -- > Kind regards, Yuri Varenytsa > > On 08.12.2022 12:59, Kseniya Sokol wrote: >> >> >> >> -------- Перенаправленное сообщение -------- >> Тема: Re: [ncc-services-wg] Measures to Protect Ukrainian Networks >> Дата: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 16:08:50 +0200 >> От: Max Tulyev <president at ukraine.su> >> Кому: ncc-services-wg at ripe.net >> >> Indeed. >> >> There are a lot of countries never had open online company register. >> And transfers works with them well. >> >> 06.12.22 13:21, Olha Sira пише: >>> Dear Olena, >>> >>> I am speaking about controlled territories and entities that >>> registered on the controlled territories. You are aware that borders >>> of the occupied territories change slightly near the front line, but >>> a big part of the country isn't affected by direct contact with >>> Russians. I am sorry, but it looks like you are trying to >>> misrepresent information about the general situation in Ukraine and >>> get an advantage from that situation in our country. You mention >>> horror and violence in uncontrolled territories, which is an obvious >>> fact. But you are using this fact to convince RIPE NCC to keep >>> blocking the transfers for the rest of Ukraine, which isn't occupied. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 6:50 PM Олена Кушнір <kea at webpro.net.ua >>> <mailto:kea at webpro.net.ua>> wrote: >>> >>> Good afternoon, Dear Colleagues and Olga >>> >>> I don't agree with you about " But there isn't direct contact >>> with >>> Russians, who might force IP >>> holders to make unlawful transfers." >>> Contact can be with people in the occupied territories through an >>> email address. There are quite a few arguments for physical >>> impact >>> on people, because horrors and violence occur in uncontrolled >>> territories. >>> Also, the borders of occupied and unoccupied territories change >>> every day. >>> I must also remind you _that open company registries are not >>> available_ during wartime. That is why it is technically >>> impossible >>> to check the legitimacy of the signatory when making transactions. >>> >>> Yes, the open _company registries are not available _at the moment. >>> But the solution has been introduced. I wouldn't be so categoretic >>> that a legitimacy of the signatory is impossible to check. >>> >>> >>> Thanks to the RIPE NCC team for their work. >>> And we support temporary blocking of IP- transfers during the war. >>> >>> >>> _______________ >>> Best regards, >>> Olena Kushnir >>> >>> www.webpro.ua <http://www.webpro.ua> >>> >>> >>>> 5 груд. 2022 р. о 12:24 Olha Sira <vasylevych at gmail.com >>>> <mailto:vasylevych at gmail.com>> написав(ла): >>>> >>>> Dear Hans Petter Holen and Colleagues, >>>> >>>> It was an extremely good and balanced decision to continue IP >>>> address >>>> transfers for companies based on Ukrainian Government-controlled >>>> territories. >>>> But it looks like a hidden ban exists. There haven't been any >>>> accomplished transfers for Ukrainian IP holders since the RIPE >>>> 85 >>>> meeting. >>>> It leads to problems with the fulfillment of obligations to >>>> counterparties and creates barriers in operating activities. >>>> >>>> Please note, that for Ukrainian Government-controlled territory >>>> the >>>> danger and difficulties are rockets and drone attacks and >>>> electricity >>>> outages, which cause absence of water and heating. >>>> But there isn't direct contact with Russians, who might force IP >>>> holders to make unlawful transfers. As was written in the >>>> previous >>>> discussion, blocking transfers for the Ukrainian >>>> Government-controlled >>>> territory does more harm than good. >>>> >>>> Your comprehension are greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Olha Sira >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 3:26 PM Hans Petter Holen >>>> <hph+announce at ripe.net <mailto:hph+announce at ripe.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> At last week’s RIPE 85 meeting in Belgrade, the RIPE community >>>>> discussed ways to further protect the resources of Ukrainian >>>>> networks. I want to provide a brief summary of what we heard at >>>>> RIPE 85 and outline what we will be doing next. >>>>> >>>>> At the meeting, there seemed to be general support for the >>>>> following points: >>>>> >>>>> - Apply a temporary freeze on all transfers from Ukrainian >>>>> networks until a better solution can be found >>>>> - Implement a way for members concerned that they are at risk >>>>> to >>>>> lock their resources and prevent them from being transferred >>>>> for >>>>> a set period of time >>>>> - The RIPE NCC should be able to act on urgent matters without >>>>> going through the policy development process, especially as >>>>> policy changes will take several months to complete the RIPE >>>>> PDP >>>>> even if there is unanimous support >>>>> - Ukrainian operators do not want government to take a more >>>>> active role in terms of approving registry updates >>>>> - The RIPE NCC should move on this matter with urgency >>>>> >>>>> However, we do note that there have been further comments on >>>>> the >>>>> mailing lists arguing against a blanket freeze on transfers. >>>>> >>>>> As an immediate response, all transfer requests from Ukrainian >>>>> networks will be escalated to me until further notice. We will >>>>> of >>>>> course continue to apply the highest levels of due diligence >>>>> when >>>>> reviewing these requests. This will add some amount of delay, >>>>> which I think is entirely appropriate under the circumstances >>>>> and >>>>> given the seriousness of the concerns that have been raised. >>>>> >>>>> This should be seen as a temporary measure which has the >>>>> advantage of being something we can apply straight away. RIPE >>>>> NCC >>>>> staff are currently investigating additional short-term >>>>> measures >>>>> and we will update you on our next steps after these have been >>>>> discussed with the Executive Board. >>>>> >>>>> We will continue to follow all discussions that take place on >>>>> the >>>>> mailing lists in the meantime. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Hans Petter Holen >>>>> Managing Director >>>>> RIPE NCC >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, >>>>> or change your subscription options, please visit: >>>>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg >>>>> <https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, >>>> or >>>> change your subscription options, please visit: >>>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg >>>> <https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg> >>> >>> >>
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