[address-policy-wg] Proposal: Limiting Membership and Allocating IPv4 Subnets in Less Developed Countries

Hello Gert,

>So, in the RIPE service region, which countries would qualify as
>"less developed countries"?  By which metric?

Determining which countries qualify as "less/least developed countries"
within the RIPE service region is indeed a crucial aspect of this proposal.
Typically, metrics such as GDP per capital, internet penetration rates, and
infrastructure development could be considered to identify these countries.

>Since there are not many /24s available, and the waiting list is long,
>it's hard to see how this would make a tangible benefit for the not
>very clearly specified beneficiaries

I am late but not too late with such restrictions about two membership per
entitiy, since this should be implemented long time ago, if you check the
allocations: https://rex.apnic.net/resources?rir=ripencc  you will see an
entity with more than 20 multilir accounts hoarding the IPv4 space, for
only purpose to lease them out and not using them for theirself! And as
such, that's why we have that long waiting list. I do believe that there is
still time in which we can prevent it.

>How can "you can have more IPv4 space" encourage IPv6 deployment?

If you have read my proposal carefully i said:  This special consideration
aims to support the growth and development of internet infrastructure in
these countries, allowing them to meet their addressing needs while
transitioning to IPv6 gradually due to their old/infrastructure...

Cheers.





On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 10:22 PM Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 08:34:31PM +0200, AlbaHost SH.P.K via
> address-policy-wg wrote:
> > Limiting Membership and Allocating IPv4 Subnets in Less Developed
> Countries.
> >
> > Background: The Regional Internet Registry (RIR) for Europe, the Middle
> > East, and parts of Central Asia, RIPE NCC, faces challenges in managing
> the
> > allocation of IPv4 addresses due to exhaustion of available IPv4 address
> > space globally. This proposal aims to address these challenges by
> > implementing limits on membership per entity and providing special
> > considerations for less developed countries where IPv6 adoption is still
> > low.
>
> We're in the RIPE region, so we cannot do policy-making for the other
> regions  (there are global policies, but since this would affect
> address distribution by the RIPE NCC, it's not a global policy).
>
> So, in the RIPE service region, which countries would qualify as
> "less developed countries"?  By which metric?
>
> [..]
> >    Allocation of IPv4 Subnets in Less Developed Countries:
> >    - Recognizing the challenges faced by less developed countries where
> >       IPv6 adoption is still minimal, RIPE NCC will allocate more than
> one /24
> >       subnet to eligible entities in such regions.
> >       - This special consideration aims to support the growth and
> >       development of internet infrastructure in these countries,
> > allowing them to
> >       meet their addressing needs while transitioning to IPv6 gradually.
>
> Since there are not many /24s available, and the waiting list is long,
> it's hard to see how this would make a tangible benefit for the not
> very clearly specified beneficiaries.
>
> [..]
> >    Encouraging IPv6 Adoption: While IPv4 addresses are increasingly
> scarce,
> >    encouraging IPv6 adoption remains a priority. However, in less
> developed
> >    countries where IPv6 infrastructure is till underdeveloped, providing
> >    additional IPv4 address space can help sustain internet connectivity
> and
> >    services while facilitating a smoother transition to IPv6 in the long
> term.
>
> How can "you can have more IPv4 space" encourage IPv6 deployment?
>
> Gert Doering
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