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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656421409-03042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> > </FONT></SPAN>I guess the option is 1) we
will be presenting the proposal at RIPE meeting.<BR> <SPAN
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656421409-03042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The ETNO, an association of Europe's largest Internet
network operators, has unanimously opposed this
proposal: </FONT> </SPAN> <A
href="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2008-03.html">http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2008-03.html</A><BR><SPAN
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656421409-03042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Specifically, in the presentation at RIPE 55 <A
href="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/mcfadden-etno.pdf">http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/mcfadden-etno.pdf</A> they
stated that IPv4 countdown proposals which suggest countdowns or set-asides are
not needed and artificial. They also state that RIPE should continue to use the
existing processes that it always has used.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656421409-03042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>This may explain why it was never discussed on the
list, i.e. most people thought that it would never, ever be accepted by
RIPE. Given this fact, will your presentation specifically address the major
flaw of the proposal, i.e. that it will actually MAKE THINGS WORSE by
making the date of free pool exhaustion earlier</FONT> <FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>than we had expected?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656421409-03042008></SPAN><SPAN
class=656421409-03042008></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2>I<SPAN class=656421409-03042008>n addition, will your presentation review
the status of this proposal in the other 4 RIRs, particularly in ARIN where it
has not received much support. Since your proposal is a global one,
under the NRO rules, it has to be passed by all 5 RIRs. If it has already failed
elsewhere, then why should RIPE waste anymore time
with it? </SPAN><SPAN
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=656421409-03042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>--Michael Dillon</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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