<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/></head><body style="font-family:Geneva,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Dear Tore, > It is in any case already possible to determine that there has been an > IPv4 address transaction between two LIRs by, as Alex Le Heux pointed > out earlier, comparing different versions of the files available on > <a href="ftp://ftp.ripe.net" target="_blank" title="ftp://ftp.ripe.net">ftp://ftp.ripe.net</a>. It's more cumbersome than the reading neat list requested > by this proposal, but it's certainly something the Russian mafia has > enough technical talent to do, if they want to. (It took me something > like 10 minutes.) <div> <div> It is too difficult to analyse, while you need to do it systematically and it can be just changes names of company or transfer. </div> -- </div> <div> Alexey</div> 06.11.2012 13:34 - Tore Anderson написал(а): <div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt" type="cite"> * LeaderTelecom Ltd. > 1 IP address transfers for 10-20USD. Just multiple count of IP x 15 USD. The size of the monetary compensation (if any) is likely to be confidential between the parties. There's no IPv4 stock exchange where everyone can can see the buying and selling prices. As there has been only very few transactions in the RIPE region to date, I don't think you can so easily conclude that US$15 is the market price everyone will end up paying. The proposal only seeks to document a transfer has happened, not any prices paid (it is doubtful that the NCC is privy to this information in any case). This is in keeping with the "Registration" goal of the internet registry system (see ripe-553 section 3.0). It is in any case already possible to determine that there has been an IPv4 address transaction between two LIRs by, as Alex Le Heux pointed out earlier, comparing different versions of the files available on <a href="ftp://ftp.ripe.net" target="_blank" title="ftp://ftp.ripe.net">ftp://ftp.ripe.net</a>. It's more cumbersome than the reading neat list requested by this proposal, but it's certainly something the Russian mafia has enough technical talent to do, if they want to. (It took me something like 10 minutes.) -- Tore Anderson Redpill Linpro AS - <a href="http://www.redpill-linpro.com" target="_blank" title="http://www.redpill-linpro.com">http://www.redpill-linpro.com</a></div> </body></html>