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Hi Hans,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 14/04/2014 13:52, Hans Petter Holen
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11.04.14 13:37, Dpto. Datos
Television Costa Blanca wrote: <br>
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font-size: 12px;" lang="x-western">On 11.04.14 11:19, Dpto.
Datos Television Costa Blanca wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;">Isnt unequal
right now? Are you saying is equal LIRs with thousands and
thousands of IP address when there are LIRs with only a /22?
Is equal that the LIRs with thousands can make lot of money
from LIRs with only a /22? <br>
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I think this depends of how you define equality. <br>
Is equality just comparing the number of addresses or IP
addresses relative to customers or even pr capita of the
market the LIR operates in. <br>
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I give you half a point here. You cant ask for IPs for a per capita
of the market the LIR operates in.<br>
Its unequal in the way a LIR have millions of unused IPs what dont
return to RIPE just for selling and a new LIR who is growing up and
need more than the /22 they have.<br>
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Its so hard to prove you need more IPs? <br>
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When I was new in this game I had to supply receipts of
equipment to prove I was building a network. That was hard
facts. But a customer prognosis based on historical growth or
marketing plans was not accepted by the community. So I would
say - yes its hard - and we have not been able to come up with
a good criteria yet. <br>
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Maybe, if all this finish in a proposal, we should discuss how to
prove you need it.<br>
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On 11.04.14 13:37, Dpto. Datos Television Costa Blanca wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;">No its not
equals. You have mooooooore game with 1 millions address
than 1 thousand address. </blockquote>
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If the LIR with 1million IP addresses has 4 million customer
it has a bigger challenge than the one with 1 thousand
addresses if that LIR only has 1000 customers. <br>
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Sure its a bigger challenge. But its biggest when you have 1k
address and 4k customers. You know, concurrence % is better when you
have more clients.<br>
Your example is not good because you dont set same terms. a LIR with
1M address and 1M customers have more game than a LIR with 1k
address and 1k clients.<br>
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Kind Regards,<br>
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