<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">I'm nearly sorry for this late tackle, but I'll just use my honeymoon as a valid excuse. ;)</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Randy Bush <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:randy@psg.com" target="_blank">randy@psg.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
can we have a wiki, <a href="https://whack-a-mole.ripe.net/." target="_blank">https://whack-a-mole.ripe.net/.</a>.. so we do not have<br>
to repeat these discussions? we could just point to the last time we<br>
went through this.<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's how I felt when the subject came up earlier this year, and I haven't been here long.</div><div><br></div><div>However, new list members should be able to address their questions and worries in some way.</div>
</div><br clear="all"><div>Regretfully, I don't see an easy way to point to the mailing list archives for the discussion either, because there have been several (many, as far as I can tell) discussions, but perhaps the list of archived proposals would give Daniel a certain overview of what's been going on in the past years, as well as access to the assessments of each policy proposal. It's a huge task to go through these, to be sure, but I think it's necessary when Daniel wants to change the policy that he's at least familiar with the past 4-5 years' worth of policy proposals did and didn't evolve into the current policy.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Archived proposals:</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/archived-policy-proposals/archive-policy-proposals/" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/archived-policy-proposals/archive-policy-proposals/</a><br>
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<br></div><div>Current proposals:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/current-proposals/current-policy-proposals" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/current-proposals/current-policy-proposals</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>A few examples that may be relevant to Daniel's concern:</div><div><br></div><div>There is, of course, "Allocations from the last /8" from 2010 (before my time):</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2010-02">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2010-02</a></div><div><br></div><div>The "run out fairly" policy:</div><div><br></div>
<div><a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-06">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-06</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>There is the policy proposal about PI assignments from the last /8, which was withdrawn:</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-04" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-04</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>(Discussions: <a href="https://www.google.no/search?q=address-policy-wg+archives+PI+Assignments+from+the+last+%2F8" target="_blank">https://www.google.no/search?q=address-policy-wg+archives+PI+Assignments+from+the+last+%2F8</a>)</div>
<div><br></div><div>There is the proposal about removing the requirement for a minimum allocation size:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-01" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-01</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Also the post-depletion adjustment to the policy, which also saw some relevant discussion, particularly concerning "need", which I think bears some relevance to Daniel's arguments about how to tell whether someone should get an additional /24:</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2013-03" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2013-03</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>There are other proposals which may be relevant, the above are just examples.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I would wish that each proposal had links to archived discussion threads, but that's just wishful thinking now – Google is our friend in finding these old discussions, based on e.g. the policy text title and key phrases in the policy change text.</div>
-- <br>Jan
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