<div dir="ltr">Hi Erik,<div><br></div><div>I get your point and I fully agree.</div><div>My initial though was about creating a new listing page for non RIPE-NCC members, as part of the new policy implementation.</div><div>Apparently, we have to deal with it separately.</div><div><br></div><div>I'll start a discussion in the Services-WG list as you suggest.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>George</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Erik Bais <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ebais@a2b-internet.com" target="_blank">ebais@a2b-internet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi George, <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">There is a statistics page for the PI transfers. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">You can click on the tab at the top of the table :<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a href="https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/ipv4-transfers/table-of-transfers" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/ipv4-transfers/table-of-transfers</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">As for a listing page for PA space, that is not public, but in the LIR portal. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And that also has email addresses and phone numbers. Maybe not everyone would like to see that kind of information publicly published. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And for PI holders, most of them don’t have an LIR account. Perhaps that would be something that Alex Band might be able to look into, to see if they can fit it into the LIR portal with the same authentication as that they use for RPKI setup for PI holders. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I would see that as a Services-WG request and not a AP-WP discussion. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Erik Bais<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Van:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank">address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net" target="_blank">address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net</a>] <b>Namens </b>George Giannousopoulos<br><b>Verzonden:</b> maandag 1 december 2014 10:31<br><b>Aan:</b> Ioanna Spyroulia<br><b>CC:</b> <a href="mailto:address-policy-wg@ripe.net" target="_blank">address-policy-wg@ripe.net</a><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [address-policy-wg] Policy Proposal Implemented: 2014-02, "Allow PI transfer"<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hello all,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Please forgive me if I'm missing something, but shouldn't we implement some kind of PI Listing service, similar to the IPv4 Listing Service for Allocated PA space?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Although the parties involved in the PI transfer might not be RIPE NCC Members, I think the RIPE NCC site is the appropriate place for someone to request or offer PI space blocks..<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">George<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Ioanna Spyroulia <<a href="mailto:ispyroul@ripe.net" target="_blank">ispyroul@ripe.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Dear colleagues,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">We are pleased to announce that we have implemented policy proposal 2014-02, "Allow IPv4 PI transfer”.<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>In accordance with the new policy, End Users can transfer complete or partial blocks of Provider Independent (PI) IPv4 address space that were previously assigned to them by the RIPE NCC.<br><br>To initiate a PI transfer, the sponsoring LIR of either the transferring or receiving End User should open a ticket with the RIPE NCC by sending an email to <a href="mailto:lir-help@ripe.net" target="_blank">lir-help@ripe.net</a>.<br><br>The procedure describing the requirements for PI transfers can be found at:<br><a href="https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/ipv4-transfers/transfer-of-assigned-pi-space" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/ipv4-transfers/transfer-of-assigned-pi-space</a><br><br>The list of all PI assignments transferred under this policy can be found at:<br><a href="https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/ipv4-transfers/table-of-transfers" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/ipv4-transfers/table-of-transfers</a><br><br>The archived policy proposal can be found at:<br><a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-02" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-02</a><br><br>The updated RIPE Document, "IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region", is available at:<br><a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-623" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-623</a><br><br><br>Kind regards,<br><br>Ioanna Spyroulia<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">RIPE NCC Registration Services <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>