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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Sacha,<br>
<br>
On 20/02/15 12:29, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:20150220112937.GP1012@cilantro.c4inet.net"
type="cite">On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:21:12PM +0100, Martin
Millnert wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">This proposal serves the purpose of
shutting off access to 'cheap' IPv4
<br>
for new businesses, definitely forcing them to turn to the IPv4
<br>
resellers who in turn can protect their prices.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I can't actually see that. The proposal doesn't move the
<br>
goalposts for a new LIR at all, assuming that a new business
<br>
would want to hang on to their ipv4 space for at least two years.
<br>
It doesn't even prevent them from creating >1 LIR if they need
<br>
more than 1024 addresses - as long as each "LIR" hangs on to
<br>
theirs for 2 years. The only difficulty is in creating multiple
<br>
LIRS and then immediately merging them (and that issue has been
<br>
raised)
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
Well, if a business wants to hang on to their addresses (for two or
more years), then that is a 'legitimate' use of the /22 :)<br>
<br>
This policy proposal tries to close the loophole where companies
only request the /22 in order to transfer it immediately using the
transfer policy.<br>
<br>
I know this policy proposal is not perfect, as the LIR that receives
the /22 can sub-allocate/assign the IP block for two years before
transferring it (*). There is also the loophole where, if their only
intention is to make a profit from (ab)using the policy, they can
try to merge the newly created LIR into an existing one using the
M&A process/procedure. This last point is where I want to
receive some further comments/suggestions before deciding how to
move forward.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:20150220112937.GP1012@cilantro.c4inet.net"
type="cite">rgds,
<br>
Sascha Luck
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
(*) I would argue that the assignment or sub-allocation of the
address space to an other company is a legitimate usage of the
allocation.<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
elvis<br>
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