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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Jan, <br>
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      thanks for you reply<br>
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      Il 11/06/2015 23.56, Jan Ingvoldstad ha scritto:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:48 PM,
            Riccardo Gori <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi all,<br>
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                fixed that I am against abuses. I think we have to keep
                in mind that RIPE task is resource distribution not
                holding them in a drawer.<br>
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                06/2015 - AVAILABLE IPv4 /8s IN<br>
                RIPE 1.09 <br>
                ARIN 0.13<br>
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href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/ipv6-info-centre/about-ipv6/ipv4-exhaustion/ipv4-available-pool-graph"
                  target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/publications/ipv6-info-centre/about-ipv6/ipv4-exhaustion/ipv4-available-pool-graph</a><br>
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                task: distribute resources. ARIN has almost reached the
                task don't you think?<br>
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    Was ironic to point out that there are many different point of
    views.<br>
    Someone thinks that IPv6 will grow when IPv4 will be completly
    exhausted.<br>
    I can't see any other reason to allow inter-RIR transfert (2014-05)
    to address the need of address space where is available or
    "stock-piled and unused"<br>
    So the good guy who stockpiled is the old cheater that needed IPv4
    /15 - /17 or the new cheater that needed many IPv4 /22 ? I see no
    differences.<br>
    About the policy in RIPE region:<br>
    Acceped march 2015: 2014-04, "Removing IPv6 Requirement for
    Receiving Space from the Final /8"<br>
    Acceped april 2015: 2014-05 Proposal Accepted (Policy for Inter-RIR
    Transfers of Internet Resources)<br>
    I see easiness<br>
    in 2015-01 I see "alignement", you can find the same rule 24months
    in 2014-05 <br>
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            <div>Without acknowledging your interpretation of
              "distributing resources", I would like to point out that
              when ARIN in a very short time no longer has any of these
              resources to distribute, they will, _forever_, fail to do
              their task, while RIPE still will carry out that task.</div>
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    I think they should have an IPv6 /12 as other RIRs to distribute...<br>
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          <div>So if we accepted your premise that that is _The Task_,
            RIPE will be performing the task better than ARIN, and not
            vice versa.</div>
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    I think both are complying the task as well as the bottom-up
    approved policies.<br>
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    regards<br>
    good night<br>
    Riccardo<br>
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