<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Hi</div><div><br>On 21 Oct 2015, at 4:53 PM, Aleksey Bulgakov <<a href="mailto:aleksbulgakov@gmail.com">aleksbulgakov@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">I really envy to all of you that you have so much free time to write messages here during all day and increase noise.</p></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I won't call it noise, a mailing list are there for discussion things about certain topic, if you are not interested, you can unsubscribe. <div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">21 окт. 2015 г. 18:48 пользователь "Sander Steffann" <<a href="mailto:sander@steffann.nl">sander@steffann.nl</a>> написал:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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> Op 20 okt. 2015, om 23:57 heeft Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN <<a href="mailto:ripe-wgs@radu-adrian.feurdean.net">ripe-wgs@radu-adrian.feurdean.net</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br>
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> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015, at 20:00, Randy Bush wrote:<br>
>> what is it that people do not understand about "gone, no more, we're<br>
>> out, ...?"<br>
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> Because it's NOT. Not yet. Not in RIPE-land, not in APNIC-land, not even<br>
> in LACNIC-land. Not to mention AfriNIC-land.<br>
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The current policy is "we reserved some address space so that new entrants are not blocked from the market". I have seen many people interpret that as "we have not yet run out". For all practical purposes we *have* run out. What we have left is not normal address distribution anymore but a "special" situation. Business-as-usual with IPv4 doesn't exist anymore. To be blunt I think that "we haven't run out" is a extremely misguided (a.k.a. delusional) viewpoint...<br>
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The point of this policy proposal is to see whether we can optimise this special situation by changing some of the parameters. To discuss if the results of changing i.e. "one /22" to "one /22 every 18 months" would help people while still providing an acceptable timeframe for being able to give addresses to new entrants.<br>
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But please realise that the normal IPv4 pool has run out and we are only discussing the usage of a reservation we made for special circumstances.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Sander<br>
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