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Hi Lu,<br>
<br>
Thank you for the question.<br>
<br>
Regarding what we would do under the old policies — it’s very
difficult for us to speculate how hypothetical examples would have
been evaluated under outdated processes that we no longer follow.
For this reason, we are unable to indicate how we would have handled
these requests before the current policies were adopted.<br>
<br>
On a more general note, it is important to be aware that the current
"IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC
Service Region" states:<br>
<br>
"Only allocations and assignments registered in the RIPE Database
are considered valid. [...] Registration data (range, contact
information, status etc.) must be correct at all times (i.e. they
have to be maintained)."<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-649#4">https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-649#4</a><br>
<br>
This means that any change to the registration data must be
reflected in the RIPE Database, and it is the LIR that is
responsible for maintaining this. The RIPE NCC regularly confirms
the correctness of the registration data with audits (ARC reviews),
during additional allocation requests, or on request by a member.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Andrea Cima<br>
RIPE NCC<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/12/2015 12:26, Lu Heng wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">I have an
policy question regarding Ripe policy before adoption of "no
need" policy.</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">We all know
that before the no need policy, when Ripe makes an
assignment, while the "need" has changed, the assignment
become invalid.</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br>
</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">The question
come to what the definition of need. Below I have few
examples, please provide your view:</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br>
</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">First one:</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Company A
provides 100 customer dedicated server service at location
A, Ripe makes an assignment for 100 IP for his
infrastructure, if, under condition that no other factor was
changed, Company A moved his infrastructure to location B,
but still providing same service to same customer, does the
company's action need to be notified to RIR? And does this
action considered invalid the original assignment?</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br>
</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Second one:</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br>
</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">Company A
provides web hosting service, but any casted in 3 location,
and has provided the evidence of 3 location to the RIR
during the time the company getting valid assignment, then A
decided to cut 3 location to 2 location, does this invalid
original assignment and need to be notified to RIR?</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br>
</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">So the bottom
line is, what is the definition of need, is it defined as
the service you are providing or defined as whole package of
any of original justification material was provided, if was
the later, then does it imply that anything, including
location of the infrastructure, upstream providers etc has
changed due to operational need, it will be considered as
change of purpose of use and need to be notified to RIR?</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"><br>
</div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">What should be
the right interpretation of the policy by then?</div>
<div><br>
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Kind regards.<br>
Lu<br>
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