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    <p>Hi Lu,<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 19/10/2016 12:33, Lu Heng ha
      scritto:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 19 October 2016 at 12:18, Gert
            Doering <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <br>
              On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:00:47PM +0200, Lu Heng wrote:<br>
              [..]<br>
              <span class="gmail-">> What I have said is one of the
                concern that have to be addressd with an<br>
                > reasonable counter argument.<br>
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              </span>Thanks for the clarification.<br>
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                > Chair's job is not collecting vote but make sure
                all concerns have been<br>
                > addressed reasonablely.<br>
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              </span>Thanks for telling me what my job is, I wouldn't
              have guessed otherwise.<br>
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              Just for the record: part of the WG Chair's job is to
              judge the "roughness"<br>
              of consensus based on the amount of supporting and
              opposing voices - both<br>
              the number, and the quality of arguments have to be
              weighted (and to some<br>
              extent the person making a certain argument).<br>
              <br>
              And if I cannot be sure what to make out of a statement,
              then I can either<br>
              ask for clarity, or just discard as "random noise".<br>
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            <div>Agian, voicing concern is not exact same thing as "<span
                style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-size:12.8px">opposition</span>",
              I have a concern, if it can be addressed well with
              reasonable conter argument, I might support.</div>
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            <div>It's the very defination of the process “reaching
              consensus".</div>
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            <div>But again, I think it is not about the policy in
              discussion, we should stop here.</div>
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            <div>I agree with Nick just said, it does not fix the core
              problem: the large eonomical difference between </div>
            <div>RIPE NCC member fees and market price for IPv4 will
              permenent exsists, Ramco said puting a sticker </div>
            <div>"not for sale" to decrease its value, it might be true,
              but the gap in those two mgiht just be too big(and will be
              bigger in the future) to close.</div>
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    Very nice example. I agree.<br>
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                  Gert Doering<br>
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              <div>--<br>
                Kind regards.<br>
                Lu<br>
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