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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Dear Aleksey,<br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none;">The RIPE Document, "RIPE Resource Transfer Policies" (ripe-682), states that transfers between LIR accounts belonging to the same member fall within the scope of the RIPE Resource Transfer Policy. This means that resources cannot be transferred for 24 months, whether they were received from RIPE NCC, through a policy transfer or a change in an organisation's business structure:</span><br style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-682#2-2-transfer-restrictions" style="color: rgb(53, 114, 176); text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">https:<wbr style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important;">/<wbr style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important;">/www.ripe.net<wbr style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important;">/publications<wbr style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important;">/docs<wbr style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important;">/ripe-682#2-2-transfer-restrictions</a><br style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none;">The RIPE NCC procedural document mentions this same limitation:</span><br style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-689#transfer35" style="color: rgb(53, 114, 176); text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">https:<wbr style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important;">/<wbr style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important;">/www.ripe.net<wbr style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important;">/publications<wbr style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important;">/docs<wbr style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important;">/ripe-689#transfer35</a><br>
<br style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none;">However, resources can be transferred due to a change in an organisation's business structure (such as a merger or network acquisition) within this 24 month period IF this is supported by documents from a national authority. </span><br style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br style="-webkit-font-smoothing: subpixel-antialiased !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important; float: none;">I hope this clarifies.
<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Best regards,
<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Ingrid Wijte
RIPE NCC
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/10/2017 14:46, Aleksey Bulgakov
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<div dir="auto">Hi, all.
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<div dir="auto">As you can read here <a
href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-announce/2016-July/001066.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/<wbr>ripe/mail/archives/ncc-<wbr>announce/2016-July/001066.html</a></div>
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<pre style="font-family:menlo,monaco,consolas,"courier new",monospace;font-size:13px;padding:9.5px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:10px;line-height:1.42857;color:rgb(51,51,51);word-wrap:break-word;background-color:rgb(245,245,245);border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);border-radius:4px;white-space:pre-wrap">Transfer of resources between LIR accounts of the same member will
fall under the transfer policy.
This aligns the transfer of resources
between LIR accounts of the same
member with the transfer procedures
the RIPE NCC applies to transfers between LIR accounts of different
members.
The transfer policy will now apply to all transfers,
regardless of
whether the transfer is between the same or different
members.
In practice, this means that the IPv4 allocation will only be
transferable between LIR accounts of the same member after 24 months.</pre>
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<div dir="auto">But if you go to transfer policy, you can see
the next</div>
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<div dir="auto">This restriction does not prevent the resources
from being transferred due to further mergers or acquisitions
within the 24-month period.<br>
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<div dir="auto">So, I see confusion between policies and
executive board desision</div>
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