<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Iljitsch,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>When is this BoF?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’ve worked in policy proposals to solve this problem in several RIRs, so I fail to see what further problem do you find.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Anyway, happy to participate and contribute if there is one.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br></span><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>address-policy-wg <address-policy-wg-bounces@ripe.net> en nombre de Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com><br><b>Fecha: </b>domingo, 6 de mayo de 2018, 21:12<br><b>Para: </b><address-policy-wg@ripe.net><br><b>Asunto: </b>[address-policy-wg] IP/ASNs for Governments BoF<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><a name="_MailOriginalBody">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></a></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>I'd like to call your attention to a BoF that was added to the schedule last week:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=32 style='width:24.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt;border-collapse:collapse;box-sizing: border-box;font-stretch: inherit;line-height:inherit;max-width:100%;border-spacing: 0px'><tr style='box-sizing: border-box;font-size:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps: inherit;font-stretch: inherit;line-height:inherit'><td style='border:none;border-top:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;background:#F9F9F9;padding:6.0pt 6.0pt 6.0pt 6.0pt;box-sizing: border-box;font-size:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps: inherit;font-stretch: inherit'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'>IP/ASNs for Governments</span></b></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'><br>Iljitsch van Beijnum, Logius, Dutch Ministry of the Interior and Kingdom Relations<br><br>The purpose of this BoF is to discuss the needs of government and large organisations when it comes to IPv6 address allocations and ASN assignments. We will cover the ways in which RIPE Policies could be changed to better support these large entities that are often comprised of many independent sub-organisations with their own connections to the Internet.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></td><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></tr></table><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Please also note my (relatively) new affiliation. :-) However, I'm using my old email address here to avoid even more spam.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>The idea behind this BoF is that governments (and some other very large organizations) find it useful to number all their sub-organizations from a single large block, but these sub-organizations connect to the internet independently. We've done this with the Dutch government-wide IPv6 numbering plan, which provides IPv6 addresses to the national government, but also provinces and cities. In Germany there's also a similar IPv6 numbering plan.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>However, the RIPE policies don't fit this use case very well. We believe it would be useful to start a discussion with the community to see how this is best addressed.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>There's also some issues surrounding the use of public AS numbers for very large private networks.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>I haven't been on this list for a number of years, so if all of this has been discussed recently, my apologies.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>The full BoF proposal is here:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span><a href="https://ripe76.ripe.net/wp-content/uploads/submissions/RIPE-76-IP-ASNs-for-governments-BoF.pdf"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>https://ripe76.ripe.net/wp-content/uploads/submissions/RIPE-76-IP-ASNs-for-governments-BoF.pdf</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Iljitsch van Beijnum<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><br>**********************************************<br> IPv4 is over<br> Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br> http://www.consulintel.es<br> The IPv6 Company<br> <br> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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