[anti-abuse-wg] Astroturfing?
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Carlos Friaças
cfriacas at fccn.pt
Wed Apr 3 14:17:08 CEST 2019
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: > Carlos > > I've absolutely zero issue with new people engaging, but lots of one line "+1" or almost identical emails isn't meaningful engagement. Hi, As i understand it, it won't be meaningful only if people unsubscribe from the list after stating support or opposition -- but i have no clue even about the list's current size. If newcomers are aware this list exists, and understand it is the proper place where they can contribute to policy-making (regarding Anti-Abuse), they could be a bit more interactive in further discussions. :-) I think for most newcomers, it won't be very easy to just subscribe and immediately start writing long messages. Regards, Carlos > Regards > > Michele > > -- > Mr Michele Neylon > Blacknight Solutions > Hosting, Colocation & Domains > https://www.blacknight.com/ > https://blacknight.blog/ > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ > Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ > ------------------------------- > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > On 03/04/2019, 12:53, "Carlos Friaças" <cfriacas at fccn.pt> wrote: > > > Hi Michele, All, > > I had to Google for 'astroturfing'. I learned something today. :-) > > As i see it, the "community" is not a closed group. > > It was repeateadly stated that "consensus" or "rough consensus" is not a > vote. I think that is clear for everyone. > > Just like a few days ago i wrote that i hoped there wasn't any kind of > discrimination against portuguese participants, i hope there isn't also > any kind of discrimination against new participants on this WG. > > I may understand if some people prefer to have less people in the WG, but > i'm not part of that set. > While worrying about how we can improve rules/tools against Abuse (that's > the point of an Anti-Abuse WG, right?), i would also like to see a much > larger number of people involved! > > If someone has any doubt about if newcomers are real persons, then > please Google away. :-) > > I met in person most of people that are supporting 2019-03 and also > those that are opposing it (some of which i even co-authored other > proposals), since a while back. > > ps: I think i haven't met Sebastien Lahtinen in person since 10y or so, so > if 2019-03 made him show up on the list, that's another plus :-)) > > Best Regards, > Carlos > > > > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: > > > All > > > > Is someone encouraging astroturfing? > > > > The number of either new or inactive members of this list who have posted one line messages in support of the recent policy discussion has reached insane levels > > > > Regards > > > > Michele > > > > -- > > Mr Michele Neylon > > Blacknight Solutions > > Hosting, Colocation & Domains > > https://www.blacknight.com/ > > https://blacknight.blog/ > > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > > Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ > > Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ > > ------------------------------- > > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty > > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > > > > >
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