[anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?
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Laura Atkins
laura at wordtothewise.com
Fri Dec 1 14:15:48 CET 2023
If sending notifications is so effective and you already have the infrastructure in place to do it, then why involve RIPE? Can’t you just send the notices? laura > On 1 Dec 2023, at 12:52, Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net> wrote: > > It will make some organizations start handling reports that didn't do it before. > > We tried this in Switzerland, sending all ISPs abuse data asking them to deal with it. In the beginning, very little enthusiasm, today most do. > > None of these proposals have ever been tries, yet your you insist on knowing they don't work. Let's try it and see what happens. If you insist on 100% guarantees you'll never change anything. This is, why in the IETF you can't simply say no, but you have to come with an alternative. So to that I challenge you. > > With this attitude the internet wouldn't exist. Sounds like the "Seat belts don't work" fraction back in the day. > > But I'll shut up now and focus on more constructive discussions elsewhere. > > Best > Serge > > > On 01.12.23 13:22, Laura Atkins wrote: >> None of this will make a company who doesn’t want to deal with abuse complaints deal with abuse complaints. It’s a total waste of resources. >> laura >>> On 1 Dec 2023, at 10:53, U.Mutlu <security at mutluit.com> wrote: >>> >>> For each complaint to RIPE NCC then such an >>> (automated) email should be sent by the RIPE NCC >>> to the abuse-c of that member. >>> This should be the absolute minimum that should be done by the RIPE NCC. >>> >>> >>> Matthias Merkel wrote on 11/30/23 11:47: >>>> The proposal is to send verification emails to abuse mailboxes and have a link >>>> in them clicked, right? I would have no objection to that. >>>> >>>> Is there more that is being proposed in this proposal specifically? >>>> >>>> — >>>> Maria Merkel >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg >> -- >> The Delivery Expert >> Laura Atkins >> Word to the Wise >> laura at wordtothewise.com >> Delivery hints and commentary: http://wordtothewise.com/blog > > -- > Dr. Serge Droz > Member, FIRST Board of Directors > https://www.first.org > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg -- The Delivery Expert Laura Atkins Word to the Wise laura at wordtothewise.com Delivery hints and commentary: http://wordtothewise.com/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20231201/7f3ab276/attachment.html>
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