[anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?
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Alessandro Vesely
vesely at tana.it
Thu Dec 7 12:11:39 CET 2023
On Tue 05/Dec/2023 15:17:59 +0100 Gert Doering wrote: > On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 09:40:22AM +0000, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg wrote: >> The claim is that the change in policy had an impact in other regions. >> If that is true then where is the data to backup that assertion? > > Especially: saying "it feels less painful to send abuse complaints", aka > "there is less bounces" is not the same as "there is less abuse" or "more > people properly handle abuse requests directed to them now" > > "Getting a bounce from an ill-maintained abuse mailbox" might actually > be more insightful than "the mail is delivered just fine, but then ignored" > - nothing in these proposals will force the receiver to deal with the mail > properly, so getting abounce actually sends a clear signal "please just > block this target network" instead of raising hopes. That's right. Rather than having, for example: Responsible organisation: Oliv Evelyn Abuse contact info: noreply at lighost.com inetnum: 162.19.141.192 - 162.19.141.195 netname: OVH_293642614 where the address obviously bounces, it would be clearer to have an established way to say there is no abuse team. Empty, noservice at . or anything definite. Publishing a database containing rubbish is not a good service to the Internet community anyway. Whether that checking can lead to a characterization, via listing, that mail or web operators can use when vetting external input can be established at a further time. Best Ale -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? On it, but will take a while...
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