[anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

Leo,

On 01/11/2023 22.37, Leo Vegoda wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 14:26, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 01:45:03PM -0700, Leo Vegoda wrote:
>>> The RIPE NCC periodically asks the community about the priority for
>>> cleaning up unused ASNs, e.g.
>>>
>>> - https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/db/minutes/ripe-52
>>> (item G), and
>>> - https://ripe82.ripe.net/presentations/7-RIPE82-Feeback-from-RS.pdf (slide 16)
>>>
>>> So far, the answer has been that it is a low priority. Perhaps because
>>> there are about 4 billion left.
>>
>> Low priority or not, the NCC is spending quite a bit of hostmaster time
>> in talking to LIRs and trying to reclaim "looks unused" ASNs.  Guess how
>> I know.
>>
>> "Here's my 50 bucks, I claim I need this for another year" is so much
>> less lifetime wasted on all sides.
> 
> Sure, but that's a membership decision and not a community decision.

My understanding of how this all works would be that if the anti-abuse 
community felt strongly that a fee for ASN would reduce abuse on the 
Internet, that it could put together a proposal saying just that. While 
this would ultimately have to be up to the members to approve (*), at 
least they would have a clear proposal with documented rational to discuss.

(*) I guess? I admit to never having read the details of how charging is 
set, since I have never represented a RIPE NCC member.

Cheers,

--
Shane


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