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    <p>This entire exchange reminds me of this scene:</p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://youtu.be/XNkjDuSVXiE?t=41">https://youtu.be/XNkjDuSVXiE?t=41</a></p>
    <p>"This is abuse"<br>
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    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Volker<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 02.09.2016 um 16:00 schrieb Hal
      ponton:<br>
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      Hi All,<br>
      <br>
      I think this is getting a little abusive here, can the tone be
      brought down a little to something a little more acceptable
      please?<br>
      <br>
      Regards,<br>
      <br>
      Hal Ponton<br>
      Senior Network Engineer<br>
      <br>
      Buzcom / FibreWiFi<br>
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        cite="mid:E7942B9BFA9B43D79A68118A6B8BBCDF@xPC" type="cite">
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              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                !important;">Marilson</a></div>
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                  style="padding-left:6px">2 September 2016 at 14:46</span></font></div>
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              <div>On Sep 01, 2016 07:12 Andre Coetzee wrote:</div>
              <div>> It is very clear what and who what you are
                Marilson.<br>
                > completely overestimate your own technical skills
                and abilities.</div>
              <div>>
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                  ignorant</div>
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                  extremely belligerent</div>
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                  how ignorant you are</div>
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                  a real Internet engineer (to learn) how the Internet
                  works</div>
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                  You obviously have a lot to learn</div>
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                  reading what I am typing and improving yourself (mamma
                  mia, without smiley ;) this phrase sound too bad)</div>
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                  COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">Hmm...well,
                  I won't stoop so low. And am I the extremely
                  belligerent?!?</div>
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                  COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">On
                  my last message I wrote: </div>
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                  I want to thank you for having changed your attitude
                  and not have mocked.</div>
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                <div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none;
                  FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal;
                  COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">Your
                  comments were full of arrogance and veiled insults and
                  now the insults are clear and direct. What happened?
                  No one can call you a hypocrite, right?</div>
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                  took sentences of my message and evaluated out of
                  context. Another sight of you – dishonesty.</div>
              </div>
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                  will repeat because you were dishonest:</div>
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                <div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none;
                  FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal;
                  COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">All
                  my messages addressed to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:support@spamcop.net" style="href:
                    "mailto:support@spamcop.net"">support@spamcop.net</a>
                  correcting the source of spam identification were
                  constantly ignored by these honorable and ethical
                  people. I was throwing away my time because the
                  reports, via spamcop, would never come to the sources
                  of scam. I needed to help them so I do not waste time
                  with my complaints. To solve this I appealed to Cisco.
                  Cisco or spamcop did nothing. I waited 30 days and
                  repeat the message (for Cisco) appending the phrase:
                  Thanks for nothing. Arrogants of shit!</div>
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                  the same day spamcop replied and thanked stating that
                  the reporting address was corrected.</div>
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                  Volker, die Anbieter geben Sie mir nur Aufmerksamkeit,
                  wenn beleidigt. ;)</div>
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                  COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">Tell
                  me Andre, if a user of your server inform you that you
                  are using a wrong source address will you remain
                  quiet? If he insists will you call him of ignorant and
                  suggest to approach a real Internet engineer to learn
                  how the Internet works?</div>
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                  spamcop on</div>
                Aug 17, 2016:</div>
              <div>>> I don’t need help of anyone to identify the
                source of spam. </div>
              <div>>> Several times I corrected your wrong source.
                I do this better than your company.</div>
              <div>>> Are you crazy? A half-wit? Is that your
                excuse for your criminal behavior? </div>
              <div>>> I copied to Cisco’s Privacy Mailer because
                you never sent any of my complaints </div>
              <div>>> for those networks referenced. DURING AN
                ENTIRE YEAR, liar idiot. </div>
              <div>>> COUNTLESS HOURS WERE LOST BECAUSE OF YOU,
                rascal. </div>
              <div>>> You must to learn to respect the people.</div>
              <div> </div>
              <div>> Clearly the problem here is that you, Marilson,
                completely overestimate <br>
                > your own technical skills and abilities.<br>
              </div>
              <div>
                <div style="FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none;
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                  to disappoint you, Andre, what you're saying is
                  absurd. Why I would overestimating something so
                  trivial? I do not want to belittle the value of your
                  company but any idiot locates the source of spam or
                  scam. Do you think necessary to have technical skills
                  and abilities for this?</div>
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                  I put for your evaluation is the time, the hours lost
                  during a year using spamcop. And that is unacceptable.
                  They are yes, liar, idiot, rascal and arrogants of
                  shit. </div>
              </div>
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                  COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">Man,
                  I know why you are so angry. In the true, to get the
                  information that spamcop provides, it is enough being
                  able to read and know a little bit English language.
                  Stress the necessity for a major technological
                  knowledge will value your company. But if you will
                  drink from the same source of spamcop and act as they
                  act, then your company will be unreliable because it
                  will present wrong scam source address. At least 5%,
                  Dr Engineer</div>
                in Expertise Area of Information Technology. </div>
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              <div>Good luck</div>
              <div>Marilson</div>
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                    <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com"
                        title="marilson.mapa@gmail.com">Marilson</a> </div>
                    <div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 31, 2016 7:20 PM</div>
                    <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:andre@ox.co.za"
                        title="andre@ox.co.za">andre@ox.co.za</a> </div>
                    <div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net"
                        title="anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</a>
                    </div>
                    <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Definition
                      of Internet Abuse * pre-final</div>
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                    <div>On Aug 31, 2016 02:22 AM Andre Coetzee wrote:</div>
                    <div>> Just this very long thread and all the
                      confusion about what is actually<br>
                      > Internet abuse and what is not - serves as
                      plain and evident proof that<br>
                      > even this, an actual anti-abuse WG,
                      desperately needs a definition of<br>
                      > Internet Abuse. Civil society is simply
                      ignorant of their own<br>
                      > requirement(s).</div>
                    <div> </div>
                    <div>First I want to thank you for having changed
                      your attitude and not have mocked.</div>
                    <div>I do not know whether the members of the group
                      desperately needs a definition of Internet Abuse.
                      But as a member of civil society, non-technical in
                      IT, end user of the Internet and real victim of
                      abuse, I can guarantee you that we need
                      desperately is an ethical and honest behavior on
                      the part of ISPs. The rest has not the least
                      importance.</div>
                    <div> </div>
                    <div>For me it is not clear your goal. But it is not
                      of my business. And I congratulate you again. But
                      if you intend to use the technical definition of
                      Internet Abuse to decide whether the complaint of
                      a victim of abuse should or should not put a
                      domain on the blocklist, your group will not have
                      credibility. You will be thwarting a real victim
                      of abuse to have his case met due to a
                      technicality.</div>
                    <div> </div>
                    <div>> 2. I am also <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        style="href: "mailto:ac@spamcop.net"">ac@spamcop.net</a>
                      - SpamCop is also a community although <br>
                      > operated graciously and ethically by Cisco.
                      We are all honorable,<br>
                      > ethical and honest people - I challenge you
                      in public to tell me the<br>
                      > name or email address of one SpamCop member
                      that is not that?</div>
                    <div> </div>
                    <div>You continue underestimating people. Sorry to
                      disappoint you. I threw a bait - spamcop - and you
                      bit. ;) Regarding your challenge I will make much
                      more than you asked for. I will paste below the
                      only two messages between me and a spamcop member.
                      And these messages occurred only because I was
                      forced to complain about the SpamCop by copying
                      for Cisco's Privacy Mailer.</div>
                    <div>All my messages addressed to <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:support@spamcop.net">support@spamcop.net</a>
                      correcting the source of spam identification were
                      constantly ignored by these honorable and ethical
                      people. I was throwing away my time because the
                      reports, via spamcop, would never come to the
                      sources of scam. To solve this I appealed to
                      Cisco: (follow the dates - had to insult to be
                      attended)</div>
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                                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</font></b><font
                                  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font><font
                                style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true" style="href:
                                  "mailto:deputies@admin.spamcop.net""
                                  title="deputies@admin.spamcop.net"><font
                                    face="Tahoma">SpamCop/Richard</font></a></font><font
                                face="Tahoma"><font style="FONT-SIZE:
                                  10pt"> </font></font></font></div>
                          <div><font face="Tahoma"><font color="#9b00d3"><b><font
                                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</font></b><font
                                  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Monday,
                                  January 11, 2016 5:48 PM</font></font></font></div>
                          <div><font color="#9b00d3"><font face="Tahoma"><b><font
                                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</font></b><font
                                  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font><font
                                style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true" style="href:
                                  "mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com""
                                  title="marilson.mapa@gmail.com"><font
                                    face="Tahoma">marilson.mapa@gmail.com</font></a></font><font
                                face="Tahoma"><font style="FONT-SIZE:
                                  10pt"> </font></font></font></div>
                          <div><font face="Tahoma"><font color="#9b00d3"><b><font
                                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</font></b><font
                                  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: Fw:
                                  Spamcop error</font></font></font></div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div> </div>
                    </div>
                    <div style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR:
                      ; DISPLAY: inline"><font color="#9b00d3">Thank you
                        for the information.  A cache refresh has
                        changed the<br>
                        reporting addresses used for 212.47.224.0/19<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        Richard<br>
                        Please include previous correspondence with
                        replies<br>
                        .:|:.:|:.</font></div>
                    <div>********************************************</div>
                    <div style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR:
                      ; DISPLAY: inline">
                      <div style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: normal">
                        <div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
                          <div style="font-color: black"><font
                              color="#9b00d3"><font face="Tahoma"><b><font
                                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</font></b><font
                                  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font><font
                                style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true" style="href:
                                  "mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com""
                                  title="marilson.mapa@gmail.com"><font
                                    face="Tahoma">Marilson</font></a></font><font
                                face="Tahoma"><font style="FONT-SIZE:
                                  10pt"> </font></font></font></div>
                          <div><font face="Tahoma"><font color="#9b00d3"><b><font
                                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</font></b><font
                                  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Monday,
                                  January 11, 2016 6:34 AM</font></font></font></div>
                          <div><font color="#9b00d3"><font face="Tahoma"><b><font
                                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</font></b><font
                                  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font><font
                                style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true" style="href:
                                  "mailto:privacy@cisco.com""
                                  title="privacy@cisco.com"><font
                                    face="Tahoma">privacy@cisco.com</font></a></font><font
                                face="Tahoma"><font style="FONT-SIZE:
                                  10pt"> </font></font></font></div>
                          <div><font face="Tahoma"><font color="#9b00d3"><b><font
                                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</font></b><font
                                  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Fw: Spamcop
                                  error</font></font></font></div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div> </div>
                    </div>
                    <div style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR:
                      ; DISPLAY: inline">
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ">
                          <div><font color="#9b00d3">Thank you for
                              nothing, arrogants of shit...</font></div>
                          <div style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ;
                            COLOR: ; DISPLAY: inline">
                            <div style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT:
                              normal">
                              <div><font face="Tahoma"><font
                                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <font
                                      face="Calibri" size="3">*******************************************</font></font></font></div>
                              <div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
                                <div style="font-color: black"><font
                                    color="#9b00d3"><font face="Tahoma"><b><font
                                          style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</font></b><font
                                        style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font><font
                                      style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        style="href:
                                        "mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com""
                                        title="marilson.mapa@gmail.com"><font
                                          face="Tahoma">Marilson</font></a></font><font
                                      face="Tahoma"><font
                                        style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font></font></div>
                                <div><font face="Tahoma"><font
                                      color="#9b00d3"><b><font
                                          style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</font></b><font
                                        style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Friday,
                                        December 11, 2015 12:11 PM</font></font></font></div>
                                <div><font color="#9b00d3"><font
                                      face="Tahoma"><b><font
                                          style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</font></b><font
                                        style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font><font
                                      style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        style="href:
                                        "mailto:privacy@cisco.com""
                                        title="privacy@cisco.com"><font
                                          face="Tahoma">privacy@cisco.com</font></a></font><font
                                      face="Tahoma"><font
                                        style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font></font></div>
                                <div><font face="Tahoma"><font
                                      color="#9b00d3"><b><font
                                          style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</font></b><font
                                        style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Spamcop
                                        error</font></font></font></div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div> </div>
                          </div>
                          <div style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ;
                            COLOR: ; DISPLAY: inline">
                            <div dir="ltr">
                              <div style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ">
                                <div><font color="#9b00d3">Gentlemen,
                                    your subsidiary<strong><em> Spamcop</em></strong>
                                    is incurring a mistake repeatedly. I
                                    can not find a way or formulary to
                                    contact spamcop and explain where
                                    the error is.</font></div>
                                <div><font color="#9b00d3">I appeal to
                                    you to resolve this problem:</font></div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div><font color="#9b00d3">I managed
                                    that a known Brazilian spammer, who
                                    uses spam to practice embezzlement,
                                    be put out of 2 or 3 ISPs. Now he is
                                    using a new provider - <strong><em>Tiscali.fr</em></strong>
                                    - with the IP <strong><em>212.47.244.217</em></strong>.</font></div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div><font color="#9b00d3">To this IP
                                    the address is<strong><em> <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          style="href:
                                          "mailto:abuse@proxad.net"">abuse@proxad.net</a></em></strong></font></div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div><font color="#9b00d3">To <strong><em>tiscali.fr</em></strong>,
                                    a subsidiary of <strong><em>tiscali.it</em></strong>,
                                    is <strong><em><a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:abuse@it.tiscali.com">abuse@it.tiscali.com</a></em></strong></font></div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div><font color="#9b00d3">Spamcop
                                    insists on using <strong><em><a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                                          href="mailto:abuse@tiscali.fr">abuse@tiscali.fr</a></em></strong></font></div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div><font color="#9b00d3">This address
                                    does not exist. If this is not
                                    corrected the criminal spammer will
                                    not be denounced.</font></div>
                                <div><font color="#9b00d3">Thanks</font></div>
                                <div><font color="#9b00d3">Marilson</font></div>
                                <div>*******************************************</div>
                                <div>As requests for corrections
                                  continued to be ignored, I decided to
                                  check the send to the correctly
                                  identified sources. Now the
                                  disappointment was absolute. No
                                  complaint was sent. More than a year
                                  doing complaints and nothing was sent.
                                  I decided upending the tea table and
                                  treat them with the respect they
                                  deserved:</div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div style="TEXT-DECORATION: ;
                                  FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ; DISPLAY:
                                  inline">
                                  <div style="FONT-FAMILY: ;
                                    LINE-HEIGHT: normal">
                                    <div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
                                      <div style="font-color: black"><font
                                          color="#9b00d3"><font
                                            face="Tahoma"><b><font
                                                style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</font></b><font
                                              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font><font
                                            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              style="href:
                                              "mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com""
title="marilson.mapa@gmail.com"><font face="Tahoma">Marilson</font></a></font><font
                                            face="Tahoma"><font
                                              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font></font></div>
                                      <div><font face="Tahoma"><font
                                            color="#9b00d3"><b><font
                                                style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</font></b><font
                                              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
                                              Wednesday, August 17, 2016
                                              1:55 PM</font></font></font></div>
                                      <div><font color="#9b00d3"><font
                                            face="Tahoma"><b><font
                                                style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</font></b><font
                                              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font><font
                                            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              style="href:
                                              "mailto:deputies@admin.spamcop.net""
title="deputies@admin.spamcop.net"><font face="Tahoma">SpamCop/Richard</font></a></font><font
                                            face="Tahoma"><font
                                              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font></font></div>
                                      <div><font color="#9b00d3"><font
                                            face="Tahoma"><b><font
                                                style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cc:</font></b><font
                                              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font><font
                                            style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              style="href:
                                              "mailto:privacy@cisco.com""
                                              title="privacy@cisco.com"><font
                                                face="Tahoma">privacy@cisco.com</font></a><font
                                              face="Tahoma"> ; </font><a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              style="href:
                                              "mailto:guardian.readers@theguardian.com""
title="guardian.readers@theguardian.com"><font face="Tahoma">guardian.readers@theguardian.com</font></a><font
                                              face="Tahoma"> ; </font><a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              style="href:
                                              "mailto:wsj.ltrs@wsj.com""
                                              title="wsj.ltrs@wsj.com"><font
                                                face="Tahoma">The Wall
                                                Street Journal</font></a><font
                                              face="Tahoma"> ; </font><a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              style="href:
                                              "mailto:spam@uce.gov""
                                              title="spam@uce.gov"><font
                                                face="Tahoma">spam@uce.gov</font></a><font
                                              face="Tahoma"> ; </font><a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              style="href:
                                              "mailto:gmail-abuse@google.com""
title="gmail-abuse@google.com"><font face="Tahoma">gmail-abuse@google.com</font></a></font><font
                                            face="Tahoma"><font
                                              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </font></font></font></div>
                                      <div><font face="Tahoma"><font
                                            color="#9b00d3"><b><font
                                                style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</font></b><font
                                              style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
                                              Re: [SpamCop
                                              (208.84.242.164)
                                              id:6470587522]=?UTF-8?B?Q09SUkVJT1MgLSBPYmpldG8gYWd1YXJkYW5kbyBy..</font></font></font></div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                </div>
                                <div style="TEXT-DECORATION: ;
                                  FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ; DISPLAY:
                                  inline">
                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                    <div style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ">
                                      <div><font color="#9b00d3">...to
                                          help me identify the source of
                                          spam ?!? I don’t need help of
                                          anyone to identify the source
                                          of spam. Several times I
                                          corrected your wrong source. I
                                          do this better than your
                                          company. What I can not do is
                                          block a domain. Yes, I opted
                                          to send a copy of each of
                                          these reports to my own
                                          address <strong>AND FOR THOSE
                                            NETWORKS REFERENCED IN SCAN.</strong></font></div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><font color="#9b00d3"><em><font
                                              style="COLOR: #9b00d3">>
                                              You then flipped out on
                                              Cisco's Privacy Mailer
                                              because we were sending
                                              you mail, mail you sent
                                              yourself. </font></em></font></div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><font color="#9b00d3">Are you
                                          crazy? A half-wit? Is that
                                          your excuse for your criminal
                                          behavior? I copied to Cisco’s
                                          Privacy Mailer because you
                                          never sent any of my
                                          complaints for those networks
                                          referenced. During an entire
                                          year, liar idiot. Countless
                                          hours were lost because of
                                          you, rascal. You must to learn
                                          to respect the people.</font></div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><font color="#9b00d3"><font
                                            color="#000000">(follow
                                            various insults that I can
                                            not repeat at this working
                                            group)</font></font></div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div><font color="#9b00d3">Marilson</font></div>
                                        <div style="FONT-FAMILY: ;
                                          LINE-HEIGHT: normal">
                                          <div><font style="FONT-SIZE:
                                              10pt" size="3">*****************************************************************</font></div>
                                          <div style="BACKGROUND:
                                            #f5f5f5">
                                            <div style="font-color:
                                              black"><font
                                                color="#9b00d3"><font
                                                  face="Tahoma"><b><font
                                                      style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                      10pt">From:</font></b><font
                                                    style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                    10pt"> </font></font><font
                                                  style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                  10pt"><a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                    style="href:
                                                    "mailto:deputies@admin.spamcop.net""
title="deputies@admin.spamcop.net"><font face="Tahoma">SpamCop/Richard</font></a></font><font
                                                  face="Tahoma"><font
                                                    style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                    10pt"> </font></font></font></div>
                                            <div><font face="Tahoma"><font
                                                  color="#9b00d3"><b><font
                                                      style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                      10pt">Sent:</font></b><font
                                                    style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                    10pt"> Wednesday,
                                                    August 17, 2016
                                                    12:14 PM</font></font></font></div>
                                            <div><font color="#9b00d3"><font
                                                  face="Tahoma"><b><font
                                                      style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                      10pt">To:</font></b><font
                                                    style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                    10pt"> </font></font><font
                                                  style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                  10pt"><a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                    style="href:
                                                    "mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com""
title="marilson.mapa@gmail.com"><font face="Tahoma">Marilson</font></a></font><font
                                                  face="Tahoma"><font
                                                    style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                    10pt"> </font></font></font></div>
                                            <div><font face="Tahoma"><font
                                                  color="#9b00d3"><b><font
                                                      style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                      10pt">Subject:</font></b><font
                                                    style="FONT-SIZE:
                                                    10pt"> Re: Fw:
                                                    [SpamCop
                                                    (208.84.242.164)
                                                    id:6470587522]=?UTF-8?B?Q09SUkVJT1MgLSBPYmpldG8gYWd1YXJkYW5kbyBy..</font></font></font></div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div style="TEXT-DECORATION: ;
                                          FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ;
                                          DISPLAY: inline"><font
                                            color="#9b00d3">I think you
                                            missed the point of my first
                                            writing.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            SpamCop has been here for
                                            the last year to help you
                                            identify the source<br>
                                            of spam you receive and help
                                            you send a complaint to the
                                            parties that<br>
                                            are responsible for those
                                            networks sending the spam.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            As part of your settings,
                                            you opted to send a copy of
                                            each of these<br>
                                            reports to your own
                                            address.  This was an email
                                            from  you (your SpamCop<br>
                                            account) to you.  You then
                                            flipped out on Cisco's
                                            Privacy Mailer because<br>
                                            we were sending you mail,
                                            mail you sent yourself.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            SpamCop operates very
                                            independently of Cisco.  The
                                            privacy office is in<br>
                                            place to ensure we operate
                                            according to the privacy
                                            policy published by<br>
                                            Cisco and to investigate
                                            where there is an accusation
                                            or suspicion the<br>
                                            privacy policy may have been
                                            breached...</font></div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                                <div>***************************************************************</div>
                                <div>Well Andre, Richard is not a
                                  honorable, ethical and honest guy.</div>
                                <div>You can use the argument you wish
                                  to explain these facts. But I will not
                                  discuss it, in this group, with you.</div>
                                <div>My goal was to denounce spamcop
                                  here. Thank you. My disputes with
                                  SpamCop and Cisco will continue but in
                                  other forums. But if you want to
                                  discuss the tricks of Netcraft... I am
                                  all ears!</div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>Marilson</div>
                                <div> </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
        --<br>
        Regards,<br>
        <br>
        Hal Ponton<br>
        Senior Network Engineer<br>
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        Buzcom / FibreWiFi<br>
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