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<DIV style="font-color: black">According Brian Nisbet the Anti-Abuse WG welcomes
a free exchange of ideas and opinions, it does not welcome PERSONAL abuse OF ANY
KIND.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black">I was alerted by a WG member that my comments are
not being posted. There are censors deciding what can be commented. I would not
be surprised by fascist attitudes.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black">I see this problem as follows: if you don't want
me to make comments, cancel my register. I don't want to waste my time writing
comments in a language I do not master.</DIV>
<DIV style="font-color: black">If this is not personal abuse what would it be?
Fascism? Arrogance? Psychopathy?</DIV>
<DIV style="font-color: black"> </DIV>
<DIV style="font-color: black">I usually use generalized swearing against
companies and their representatives when my rights are not respected. WITH
EVIDENCE OF ILLICIT ACTS. If this bothers you, do not be hypocrites by saying “I
have little or no problem with generalised swearing.”</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black">Marilson</DIV>
<DIV style="font-color: black"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff; size: 3"
face=Calibri>Never so few done so much harm to so many.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><FONT face=Tahoma><B><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</FONT></B><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
</FONT></FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A title=marilson.mapa@gmail.com
style='href: "mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com"'><FONT
face=Tahoma>Marilson</FONT></A></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><B><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</FONT></B><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Wednesday, February 01, 2017 12:02
AM</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><B><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</FONT></B><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </FONT></FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
title=svenk@xs4all.nl style='href: "mailto:svenk@xs4all.nl"'><FONT
face=Tahoma>HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker</FONT></A></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><B><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cc:</FONT></B><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </FONT></FONT><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
title=anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net style='href: "mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net"'><FONT
face=Tahoma>anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</FONT></A></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><B><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</FONT></B><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: anti-abuse-wg Digest, Vol 62, Issue
33</FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">My little chit-chat?!? I have
reported with evidence and detailed reports explaining the dirty economic and
financial motives of the criminal use that all these companies, quoted by you,
and hundreds of others, make of their tools, which were developed with a single
goal, cheat to increase profit. The ends justifying the means. The criminal and
exacerbated profit at the expense of the population of the planet. The absolute
absence of good ethics and decency practiced by sociopaths who have the
preference to occupy the positions of CEO. HSBC, Volkswagen and Mitsubishi are
the picture of this economy where you should cheat, just try not to get
caught.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">And I've been doing this every day
for three years. Is your 20k mails in 5 minutes also seen as spam by the top
spammers? Gmail Google, The Godfather, has a habit of returning my complaints of
spam and scams as spam. And whenever it happens I divulge the fact to the main
communications channels and related institutions. I never post a complaint with
links enabled, neither in the detail of the complaint nor in the header or in
the text of the pasted message.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">That is it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Marilson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff; size: 3" face=Calibri>Never so few
done so much harm to so many.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>On Jan 31, 2017 <A title=svenk@xs4all.nl
style='href: "mailto:svenk@xs4all.nl"'>HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker</A>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ; DISPLAY: inline"><FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">just try to use SMTP for something serious,
other than your little chit-chat and you'll quickly see exactly -why- it's dead.
oh yeah. your invoice-sending-run of 20k mails in 5 minutes is also seen as spam
by the largest receiving entities: yahoo, hotmail, gmail. despite it not only
being -legal- but legally mandatory to send invoices.
lolol</FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black">On Jan 31, 2017 Marilson wrote:</DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></FONT></FONT> </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ; DISPLAY: inline"><FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Now we are speaking the same language (with my
English). I will not agree with the reasons for your refusal to cancel contracts
because I am a layperson. For me it's something that came from Alpha Centaur
after traveling 26 years at the speed of light. I'm just an architect. But I can
consider it quite probable considering the behavior that repeats itself in such
'entities' as, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, etc.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">That is not different of the
criation of storage tool called <STRONG><EM>S3</EM></STRONG> or
<STRONG><EM>Azure</EM></STRONG> or <STRONG><EM>Google Drive</EM></STRONG>. They
provide the tools for committing crimes, they hide the identity of the criminal,
and say they are not responsible for the acts of your customers.
<STRONG><EM>Ionesco</EM></STRONG>, father of the theater of the absurd, should
be moving in the grave.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">They are continuously refining
their systems to protect and hide their criminal customers to increase the
internet traffic. That was always the goal, regardless of the harm caused to the
planet's population. They act above the law with the blessing of their
government. God save the laissez faire.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Silicon Valley corporations no
longer know where to store their trillions of dollars. They are building
underground structures to protect themselves. They will probably bury gold and
diamonds, or graphene and antimatter. Just do not know where they will spend if
the hecatomb they are dreading happening. 2017 is a critical year for them.
;)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Good for them!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Marilson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff; size: 3">Never so few done so much
harm to so many.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black">On Jan 31, 2017 <FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
title=svenk@xs4all.nl style='href: "mailto:svenk@xs4all.nl"'><FONT
face=Tahoma>HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker</FONT></A></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <FONT size=3
face=Calibri>wrote:</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ; DISPLAY: inline"><FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">you seem to consider broken old buggy code and
badly thought out protocols of the past an 'unchangable fact'... to me, cooking
up something like smtp, is just a matter of some coffee and a few hours of
typing...</FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">and that little issue with the oob
messages on wintendo could have been solved in less than a minute. instead
microsoft let it continue to go on for many years... (like all their other virus
bullshit - you'd almost start to think the anti-virus industry is paying them to
let those bugs continue to exists so more virusses can be created for them
;)</FONT><BR></P>
<P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">we're not gonna disconnect anyone's
internet just because 'some people' refuse to just let dead and broken protocols
and software be dead (or fix them up a little).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">any line of code wasted on dnsbls or
harrassing isps, won't solve the problem. a problem that to me is virtually
non-existant as i barely use smtp anyway. the 1990s are over, there is plenty of
better stuff out there... just use that.</FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black">On Jan 31, 2017 Marilson wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ; DISPLAY: inline">Hey pal,
you're confusing me with Andre. But I'm not your friend either. I am a ISP
hunter because I do not consider the spammers and scammers the real responsible
for that naughtiness. And you are the incontestable proof of what I am
saying:</DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>> 'if your computer crashes when someone sends TCP OOB
messages to it on port 139 i think it was, go fix your operating system, don't
go around demanding that we terminate contracts with anyone that gets the great
idea to send you such packets. lol.'<BR>
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<DIV>I will never 'turned on Spamhaus'. Do you know why? After 'turned on
Spamcop' (America rules the internet) for a year, and 'turned on Netcraft'
(Britain rules the internet) for almost two years, I have learned that they are
liars, dishonest, and their real goals are unconfessable. Spamcop cheated on me
for a whole year and Netcraft keeps cheating almost every day. Why do I continue
using Netcraft? Because every cheating I denounce with evidence and copy for
everyone. Inclusive for Anonymous. The irony is that I spam when I report it,
but I give them viral advertising.</DIV>
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<DIV>You have my sympathy towards Spamhaus but you are my enemy as long as you
find it funny that your criminal client invades and infects my computer. It is
your right not to terminate a contract but will be complicit in the crime. And
that could cost you another 55 days like those in Spain.</DIV>
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<DIV>That is all, pal!</DIV>
<DIV>Marilson</DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="size: 3">Never so few done so much harm to so
many.</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </FONT></FONT>On Jan 31, 2017 <FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A title=svenk@xs4all.nl
style='href: "mailto:svenk@xs4all.nl"'><FONT face=Tahoma>HRH Prince Sven Olaf
von CyberBunker</FONT></A></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <FONT size=3
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<DIV style="TEXT-DECORATION: ; FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ; DISPLAY: inline">be that
as it may but as long as 'some' try to get MY networks/companies depeered
"because" we don't terminate clients when they tell us to, by abusing their
unsollicited influence over delivery to YOUR mail as a means of blackmail to
obstruct the mail of MY suppliers until they disconnect ME, YOUR mail protocol
and it's (more or less) related rbls are a problem to ME. :P</DIV>
<P>now if YOU would have turned on spamhaus YOURSELF that indeed is YOUR
choice...</P>
<P>however in by far most cases, that's not the case and it's the mail service
provider making that choice for all of it's customers. giving spamhaus severe
leverage to use as a means of extortion. (and also being blatantly illegal by
itself - violates net neutrality).</P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>On Jan 21, 2017
Marilson wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>My
horse-drawn cart is mine, not yours.</DIV>
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<DIV>My email is mine, not yours. IS MINE. Only the psychopaths and the arrogant
can not understand this truth. They think that everything belongs to them.</DIV>
<DIV>Follow the rules of email marketing. Be decent. Respect people. PROBLEM
SOLVED. ;)</DIV>
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<DIV>Marilson</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Never so few done so much harm to so
many.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=svenk@xs4all.nl
href="mailto:svenk@xs4all.nl">HRH Prince Sven Olaf von CyberBunker</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, 2017 12:35 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</A> ; <A
title=marilson.mapa@gmail.com href="mailto:marilson.mapa@gmail.com">Marilson</A>
; <A title=andre@ox.co.za href="mailto:andre@ox.co.za">ox</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RBL Discussion Update</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>we
don't adjust the autobahn to safely accomodate your horse drawn cart. <BR>same
thing. buy a proper vehicle. problem solved.<BR><BR><BR>On 31 ينا, 2017 م 02:12,
ox wrote:<BR>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 14:05:12 +0000<BR>> HRH Prince Sven
Olaf von CyberBunker <svenk@xs4all.nl> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>>
as -that- is what all those spamhaus listings (the ones -before- the<BR>>>
escalations, which are pure and solely blackmail) are -mostly-
about:<BR>>> trade policy. not spam. not virusses.<BR>>><BR>>
*yawn* still ranting about Spamhaus...<BR>><BR>>
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