<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> Good evening! I understand perfectly the concerns of those colleagues who actually want to promote a better responsible behaviour and ensure the resources allocated to the LIR-s are not abused or there is an effective mechanism to stop abuse. However, as the chair kindly pointed, RIPE policy development follows certain rules: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-710">https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-710</a> which in first part of the document clearly states: "Conclusions are reached by consensus." According to Oxford Dictionary, consensus means an opinion that all members of a group agree with. I standby my previous comment: the community (of RIPE) has grown encompassing legitimate business but also abusers who have become part of that community. Given the previous two points, it is rather clear that we have, in effect, lost the control. KR, <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Tõnu Tammer CERT-EE juht / Executive Director of CERT-EE Riigi Infosüsteemi Amet / Estonian Information System Authority Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tonu@cert.ee">tonu@cert.ee</a> Mobile: +372 53 284 054 Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cert.ee">https://cert.ee</a> PGP:0x77A8997 / 9477 6B86 6A1E 849B C456 46D6 9CA8 9E41 77A8 997B</pre> </body> </html>