<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <style type="text/css" style="display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} </style> </head> <body dir="ltr"> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> All,</div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> I'm on leave from work this week and not checking this email a/c as often as I normally would (or, hopefully, at all this week!), but I wanted to pop in to clarify something.</div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> We do not vote on proposals in the RIPE community. We discuss them and either consensus is reached or it is not. There is, therefore, no calls for votes, nor counting of same.</div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> I would encourage everyone to read the material at <a href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies">https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies</a> in order to gain a better understanding of the process.</div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Thanks,</div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Brian</div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG</div> <div> <div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> <br> </div> <div id="Signature"> <div> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size:12pt; color:#000000; font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> <p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Brian Nisbet </p> <p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Service Operations Manager</p> <p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network</p> <p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland</p> <p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">+35316609040 brian.nisbet@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie</p> <p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 </p> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div id="appendonsend"></div> <hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1"> <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of PP <phishphucker@storey.ovh><br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday 5 October 2020 11:04<br> <b>To:</b> anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [policy-announce] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)</font> <div> </div> </div> <div> <p></p> <div style="background-color:#FFCACA; width:100%; border-style:solid; border-color:#9C6500; border-width:1pt; padding:2pt; font-size:10pt; line-height:12pt; font-family:'Calibri'; color:Black; text-align:left"> <span style="color:#9C6500">CAUTION[External]:</span> This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.</div> <br> <p></p> <div> <p>You don't know that it was "marginal" support, because no count was ever conducted.</p> <p><br> </p> <p>The Chair never asked for a "vote", and then when people didn't "vote" (because they had never been asked to), they concluded (wrongly) that there was no support for the proposal.</p> <p><br> </p> <p><br> </p> <p><br> </p> <div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 5/10/2020 8:51 pm, Alex de Joode wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite"><style id="x_axi-htmleditor-style" type="text/css">  </style> <div>Jordi,</div> <div><br> </div> <div>The proposal received a lot of push back. Your statement "some clear support for the policy during the discussion phase", is missing the word "marginal" between some and clear.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>I believe the Anti-Abuse WG Co-Chairs made the right call. Please consider retracting your appeal.<br> </div> <div><font size="1"><br> </font></div> <div class="x_x-axi-signature"><br> <div class="x_x-axi-signature" style="font-size:10pt; font-family:">-- <div>IDGARA | Alex de Joode | <a class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:alex@idgara.nl"> alex@idgara.nl</a> | +31651108221 <br> </div> </div> </div> <br> On Mon, 05-10-2020 10h 23min, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es"><jordi.palet@consulintel.es></a> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="margin-left:10px; padding-left:10px; border-left:1px solid #ccc"> <div style="font-family:">Hi all,<br> <br> This appeal (attached in PDF) follows the process outlined by ripe-710 (RIPE PDP).<br> <br> <br> Regards,<br> Jordi<br> @jordipalet<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> **********************************************<br> IPv4 is over<br> Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br> <a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theipv6company.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca2a4a12e445d4c10fa4308d869160918%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637374890673962409&sdata=NQ%2FgJyz%2BpjWRO1Xh0PUGPmm7thiUh3jeEpAGLaYiRGw%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://www.theipv6company.com/" shash="mDooZQarE82J35Cp2mPiBIHiomuU2jzNmB7aVyaJBviWyZPcG2hTwcCjDaf2o6m2IbmhEe5HY6a+BZBHdZwyKt5TW9A539M+4su1B0q+vC5T1CWGYYRl7eA4XEJsphfTvAPKrOJWu8foFlITew6/EeHELReSQwCpPHLKp5NEGbA=" target="_blank">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br> The IPv6 Company<br> <br> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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