<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
</head>
<body>
<p>Which then allows you to mistakenly claim there is or isn't
consensus.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Which itself is prone to abuse.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/2020 2:28 am, Brian Nisbet
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:DB7PR06MB5017A8458C22B9259CA59ED9940C0@DB7PR06MB5017.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<style type="text/css" style="display:none;"> P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} </style>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
All,</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I'm on leave from work this week and not checking this email a/c
as often as I normally would (or, hopefully, at all this week!),
but I wanted to pop in to clarify something.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
We do not vote on proposals in the RIPE community. We discuss
them and either consensus is reached or it is not. There is,
therefore, no calls for votes, nor counting of same.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I would encourage everyone to read the material at <a
href="https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies</a> in
order to gain a better understanding of the process.</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Thanks,</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Brian</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div id="Signature">
<div>
<meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr"
style="font-size:12pt; color:#000000;
font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Brian
Nisbet </p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Service
Operations Manager</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">HEAnet
CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">1st Floor,
5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">+35316609040
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brian.nisbet@heanet.ie">brian.nisbet@heanet.ie</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.heanet.ie">www.heanet.ie</a></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Registered
in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 </p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1">
<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
anti-abuse-wg <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net"><anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net></a> on behalf
of PP <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:phishphucker@storey.ovh"><phishphucker@storey.ovh></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday 5 October 2020 11:04<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net">anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net"><anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [policy-announce] Appeal
against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal
2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)</font>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div style="background-color:#FFCACA; width:100%;
border-style:solid; border-color:#9C6500; border-width:1pt;
padding:2pt; font-size:10pt; line-height:12pt;
font-family:'Calibri'; color:Black; text-align:left">
<span style="color:#9C6500">CAUTION[External]:</span> This
email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not
click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise
the sender and know the content is safe.</div>
<br>
<div>
<p>You don't know that it was "marginal" support, because no
count was ever conducted.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>The Chair never asked for a "vote", and then when people
didn't "vote" (because they had never been asked to), they
concluded (wrongly) that there was no support for the
proposal.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 5/10/2020 8:51 pm, Alex de
Joode wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<style id="x_axi-htmleditor-style" type="text/css">
<!--
p
{margin:0px}
-->
</style>
<div>Jordi,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The proposal received a lot of push back. Your
statement "some clear support for the policy during the
discussion phase", is missing the word "marginal" between
some and clear.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I believe the Anti-Abuse WG Co-Chairs made the right
call. Please consider retracting your appeal.<br>
</div>
<div><font size="1"><br>
</font></div>
<div class="x_x-axi-signature"><br>
<div class="x_x-axi-signature" style="font-size:10pt;
font-family:">--
<div>IDGARA | Alex de Joode | <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:alex@idgara.nl" moz-do-not-send="true">
alex@idgara.nl</a> | +31651108221 <br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
On Mon, 05-10-2020 10h 23min, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <a
class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:jordi.palet@consulintel.es"
moz-do-not-send="true"><jordi.palet@consulintel.es></a>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin-left:10px; padding-left:10px;
border-left:1px solid #ccc">
<div style="font-family:">Hi all,<br>
<br>
This appeal (attached in PDF) follows the process
outlined by ripe-710 (RIPE PDP).<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Jordi<br>
@jordipalet<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
**********************************************<br>
IPv4 is over<br>
Are you ready for the new Internet ?<br>
<a
href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theipv6company.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca2a4a12e445d4c10fa4308d869160918%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637374890673962409&sdata=NQ%2FgJyz%2BpjWRO1Xh0PUGPmm7thiUh3jeEpAGLaYiRGw%3D&reserved=0"
originalsrc="http://www.theipv6company.com/"
shash="mDooZQarE82J35Cp2mPiBIHiomuU2jzNmB7aVyaJBviWyZPcG2hTwcCjDaf2o6m2IbmhEe5HY6a+BZBHdZwyKt5TW9A539M+4su1B0q+vC5T1CWGYYRl7eA4XEJsphfTvAPKrOJWu8foFlITew6/EeHELReSQwCpPHLKp5NEGbA="
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.theipv6company.com</a><br>
The IPv6 Company<br>
<br>
This electronic message contains information which may
be privileged or confidential. The information is
intended to be for the exclusive use of the
individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty
authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of
the contents of this information, even if partially,
including attached files, is strictly prohibited and
will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not
the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure,
copying, distribution or use of the contents of this
information, even if partially, including attached
files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a
criminal offense, so you must reply to the original
sender to inform about this communication and delete it.<br>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>