<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.23588"></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>Dear Seun,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for this. To your last point, I agree that there has not been much discussion, but there have been some proposals, see in particular:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <A href="http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/cooperation-wg/2014-September/000575.html">http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/cooperation-wg/2014-September/000575.html</A> </DIV> <DIV> Best,</DIV> <DIV>Richard</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr> <DIV dir=ltr class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left>-----Original Message----- From: Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com] Sent: mercredi, 22. octobre 2014 10:10 To: Richard Hill Cc: Chris Buckridge; RIPE Cooperation Working Group Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Request for clarification of the process </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV class=gmail_extra> <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Richard Hill <<A href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" target=_blank>rhill@hill-a.ch</A>> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=gmail_quote>Thanks for this. So, to be clear, the proposal is that RIPE NCC will not prepare a specific response to the ICG RFP, rather it will delegate to CRISP the task of preparing a draft response. </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Same with the AFRINIC region and i think will applies to other RIRs </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=gmail_quote> The draft prepared by CRISP will be posted to this mailing list for discussion and comments. Is that correct? </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>This is also how i understood it. However i would expect that mailing list to be the NRO list which is more global. Although noting prevents cross-posting. </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=gmail_quote>If yes, then I would propose that RIPE NCC request CRISP to take into account, when preparing the draft response, all the comments that have been posted to date to this mailing list. </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Well if you ask me i did say that no major specific discussion/proposal has really happened ;) also it can be unrealistic to task a team yet to be formed to look at previous comments. While they may do that, i think when the team get formed, the 2 RIPE members should find a way of collecting comments from its region as same will be done in other regions as well. </DIV> <DIV>Cheers! </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=gmail_quote>Thanks and best, Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Buckridge [mailto:<A href="mailto:chrisb@ripe.net">chrisb@ripe.net</A>] > Sent: mercredi, 22. octobre 2014 09:40 > To: <A href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch">rhill@hill-a.ch</A> > Cc: Hans Petter Holen; <A href="mailto:cooperation-wg@ripe.net">cooperation-wg@ripe.net</A> > Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Request for clarification of the process > > <DIV class=HOEnZb> <DIV class=h5>> Dear Richard, all, > > Attempting a more specific answer to that question: > > According to the existing proposal [which should not be regarded > as final], the RIPE community will not prepare a specific > response to the Request for Proposals (RFP) produced by the IANA > Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG). > > [The RFP text is available at: > <A href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rfp-iana-stewardship-0" target=_blank>https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rfp-iana-stewardship-0</A> > 8sep14-en.pdf] > > The current "draft proposal" takes the approach of a higher-level > RIPE community position, specifying the mechanism that the > community wishes to see replace the existing NTIA agreement. The > current APNIC community draft proposal is based on a similar approach. > > To avoid confusion, it may make more sense to refer to this > document as a draft set of principles, but it is anticipated that > this text will be the output of the RIPE community discussion. > > The ICG RFP lays out a very specific template for the proposals > that the ICG expects to receive, and the CRISP team can be > expected to produce a proposal based on this template. There is > no requirement that the individual RIR communities use this > template, and consolidating five lengthy, detailed proposals (as > the RFP template would produce) may pose more of a challenge for > the CRISP team than drawing together five expressions of > priorities and preferred mechanisms to develop a single proposal, > based on the RFP template. > > As always, all of the assumptions here are open for discussion in > this working group. > > Best regards, > Chris > > > On 22 Oct 2014, at 16:31, Richard Hill <<A href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch">rhill@hill-a.ch</A>> wrote: > > > Dear Hans Petter, > > > > Thank you for this, it is helpful. > > > > But the links you provide refer to the NRO process, whereas my > question was specifically about the RIPE NCC process. That is, > what process will RIPE NCC use to prepare its input to CRISP. > > > > Thanks again and best, > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > > From: <A href="mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net">cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net</A> [mailto:<A href="mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net">cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net</A>]On Behalf Of Hans Petter Holen > Sent: mercredi, 22. octobre 2014 01:42 > To: <A href="mailto:cooperation-wg@ripe.net">cooperation-wg@ripe.net</A> > Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Request for clarification of the process > > On 20.10.14 21:37, Richard Hill wrote: >> So my question is actually "What process will be used by RIPE to prepare a >> response to the ICG's RFP? Will that response be drafted by the RIPE NCC >> staff? And will it be posted to this list for comment before it is >> submitted to CRIP?" >> > I think some of the answer may be found in > <A href="https://www.nro.net/news/iana-stewardship-consolidated-rir-iana-stewardship-proposal-team" target=_blank>https://www.nro.net/news/iana-stewardship-consolidated-rir-iana-stewardship- proposal-team</A> > > and on > > <A href="https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/consolidated-rir-iana-stewardship-proposal-team-crisp-team" target=_blank>https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/consolidated- rir-iana-stewardship-proposal-team-crisp-team</A> > > It does say community members and staff - so I do not read that only staff will be involved. > > I also read that the work will be done on a public mailing-list and that the meetings will be open. > > > -- > Hans Petter Holen > Mobile <A href="tel:%2B47%2045%2006%2060%2054" value="+4745066054">+47 45 06 60 54</A> | > <A href="mailto:hph@oslo.net">hph@oslo.net</A> | <A href="http://hph.oslo.net" target=_blank>http://hph.oslo.net</A> > > > </DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> -- <DIV dir=ltr>------------------------------------------------------------------------ <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; FONT-FAMILY: garamond,serif">Seun Ojedeji, Federal University Oye-Ekiti web: <A href="http://www.fuoye.edu.ng" target=_blank>http://www.fuoye.edu.ng</A> Mobile: <A value="+2348035233535">+2348035233535</A> alt email:<A href="http://goog_1872880453" target=_blank> </A><A href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng" target=_blank>seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng</A> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex">The key to understanding is humility - my view ! </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> </DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>